Article: 16251 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: instntguts@aol.com (InstntGuts) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 6 Apr 1996 13:19:23 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 37 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k6cjb$cbt@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: instntguts@aol.com (InstntGuts) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:33987 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16251 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14333 << All of these people are playing with MAX while us Lightwave people have to work and make tons of money doing CGI. When do I get to play? I guess that's the real price you have to pay for knowing Lightwave... -- -=Fred=->> The vast majority of the 60,000-70,000 3D Studio owners also "work" and make tons of money with 3D Studio, and have since Version 1 back in 1990. They didn't spend $3,000 just so they could occasionally do an architectural rendering of their dream house; they did it because they could make money with it. Whether a person spends $995 on LW, $495-3495 on 3D Studio MAX (depending on if they got the upgrade), or $8,000 on Softimage NT, that person expects that the capabilities of his new tools will enable him to accomplish work that a.) he expects to do more easily in that particular package than another, and b.) enable him to take on more varied jobs -- hence more money. This is part of the "but X costs so much more than Y!" argument that has never made any sense to me. No matter how much I spend on my personal hardware and software (it averages about $5,000 a year), I am *always* able to amortize my expenditures almost immediately thereafter, even doing part-time 3D work away from my full-time job. (If I couldn't, then I wouldn't spend the money in the first place, right?) The majority of people who say "but X program is more expensive than Y!" are kinda missing the point. No one's forcing you to buy the more expensive one. If you get what you want out of the tool that you bought, great. If not, then you may have to re-think your purchase. Just because you can't justify the cost of a program doesn't mean that the thousands of other people who've bought 3DS, Softimage, or whatever, cannot also. They obviously can. -- Jon Article: 16252 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!in-news.erinet.com!usenet From: Andrew Hofman Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: PictureBlack Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 13:37:02 -0500 Organization: LumaQuest Productions, Dayton, OH Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3166B9CE.4A0E@erinet.com> References: <4k64i6$9hh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edlp216.erinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) > I'm I lightwave 4.0 user running on a 275 dec alpha. Doing Corporate > animations I have a general question for the learned out in Cyberspace. > Some of my clients are asking for Picture Black or SuperBlack when I dub > my Lightwave Anims to BetacamSP. Can I achieve this through a lightwave > panel option that I am not familiar with? Or Is this a hardware only > addon and if so what do I need? > > Thanks You neglected to mention one all-important thing: what you are using for video output. Superblack is not something LightWave has any control over. Since you are running LW on an Alpha, perhaps you are using a PVR. If so, you will find a superblack option in the Import/Export settings. It simply takes all the RGB values of 0,0,0 in a frame and bumps them down to zeroblack. -- Andrew Hofman LumaQuest Productions andyh@erinet.com 513-643-7333 Article: 16253 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!neoucom.edu!neoucom.edu!redpoll!red Newsgroups: alt.retromod,alt.music.midi,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.music.midi,comp.programming,rec.games.miniatures.warhammer,rec.music.industrial,sci.environment,sci.image.processing Subject: Re: bincancel:16 large binaries:AR275:@@NCM Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 18:39:09 GMT From: red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us (Richard E. Depew) Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.misc Organization: ARMM Services, Bincancel Division Keywords: ARMM - Automated Retroactive Minimal Moderation Lines: 52 Xref: news2.cais.com alt.retromod:1262 alt.music.midi:17580 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16253 comp.music.midi:5929 comp.programming:26099 rec.games.miniatures.warhammer:33644 rec.music.industrial:121457 sci.environment:98647 sci.image.processing:21182 Binary posts do not belong in unmoderated discussion groups. I run a program that searchs for, and issues advisory cancels for, large binaries in the akr, biz, comp, misc, news, rec, and sci hierarchies. I have issued 16 cancels for large binary files (average size 109,080 characters - total size 1,745,279 characters) posted to 7 different unmoderated discussion groups in the rec, comp, and sci hierarchies (with cross-posts into alt groups) as follows: 10 comp.programming 2 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave 1 sci.image.processing sci.environment 1 rec.music.industrial 1 rec.games.miniatures.warhammer 1 comp.music.midi alt.music.midi The cancels in non-targeted groups are an unavoidable consequence of the way cancels work. A cross-posted article has only one Message-ID. When it is canceled from one group it is canceled from all groups. This pointer is being posted to each affected group listed above. Follow-ups are directed to news.admin.net-abuse.misc. If you want to see exactly which file was deleted from a particular group, read the full report in news.admin.net-abuse.announce. Look for AR275 in the subject. The full report can also be found in alt.nocem.misc and alt.retromod. The criteria used to search for this batch of large binaries were: NEWSGROUPS: Unmoderated akr, biz, comp, misc, news, rec, or sci (except for comp.binaries.apple2 and rec.games.bolo) BINARY: (base64, binhex, uuencode, and xbtoa encoded files, etc.) SIZE: > 100,000 characters (size * number of parts, if multi-part) If you must post a binary to Usenet, please post it *only* to an appropriate binaries newsgroup such as alt.binaries.misc, and do *not* crosspost it to non-binaries groups. This permits news administrators and users to decide for themselves whether to receive binary files. Please direct public feedback to news.admin.net-abuse.misc and private feedback to red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us. Thanks. Best wishes, Dick -- Richard E. Depew, Munroe Falls, OH red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us (home) It's over, and can't be helped, and that's one consolation, as they always say in Turkey, when they cut the wrong man's head off'' -- Charles Dickens Article: 16254 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!newsstand.tc.umn.edu!usenet From: Eva Zygmunt Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Writing logo clip question Date: 6 Apr 1996 18:42:07 GMT Organization: University of Minnesota Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4k6dtv$l5e@epx.cis.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-14-c-47.gw.umn.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-URL: news:comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Im sure this has been answered here many times before, but would someone be kind enough to forward me some tips on making the process of an instrument writing/carving a logo into a material. I know there is probably a clip map involved in making the transition between the blank and the booleaned (for carved) surfaces that follows the instrument doing the writing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks john Article: 16255 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: robanims@aol.com (RobAnims) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: PictureBlack Date: 6 Apr 1996 15:50:36 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 5 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k6les$f5l@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3166B9CE.4A0E@erinet.com> Reply-To: robanims@aol.com (RobAnims) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Thanks Andrew. Looks Like I'll have to Get a PVR. I'm still neting from the Alpha to a PAR on my Amiga 3000. Tnx Article: 16256 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: Elliot Bain Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Web Design & Pantone to RGB Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 23:58:52 -0500 Organization: Laurell Creative Services Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3165FA0C.3F75@ix.netcom.com> References: <4jsbc9$r79@news1.io.org> <4jt0c9$d7d@nntp1.best.com> <316346F9.167E@wn.planet.gen.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-col2-21.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Apr 05 8:56:41 PM PST 1996 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (WinNT; I) Walter (Jay) Turberville (III) wrote: > ------------snip--------- > > As everybody here has agreed, the colors don't match. Part of the > problem is the difference between CMYK and RGB color space but I think a > bigger problem is that a monitor is radiating color while printed material is > reflecting. There are different brightnesses and contrasts working against > you. > Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com > Studio 522 Productions |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber > http://www.studio522.com |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber I think the problem is even more basic than that. As soon as you shine a light on a LW object, everything changes. You get shadows, highlights and hotspots. Then the client has to bring in lighting coordinators.... -- Elliot Bain Laurell Creative Services 614.459.4404 Article: 16257 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!newshub.cts.com!cg57.esnet.com!torment!mad From: mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Frames Per Second? Message-ID: Date: 6 Apr 96 09:05:49 PST Organization: Tierra-Miga BBS Lines: 31 On Fri 5-Apr-1996 2:36p, David Hopkins wrote: DH> In article , mad@torment.tmisnet.com says... DH> > DH> >On Mon 1-Apr-1996 6:16p, William A. Mendez wrote: DH> >W> Hello To All, DH> > DH> > DH> >W> I am currently working on a animation of a logo that rotates around DH> the DH> >W> Earth. The logo currently rotates too quickly, My questions is how can DH> >W> I slow it down. The speed I want it to loop is 6 frames per second it DH> DH> Actually, I believe you meant SCALE, now SHIFT. Of course, a scale of 2 DH> would DH> make an animation setup at 30 fps take 60 fps, a scale of .5 would make it DH> 15 DH> fps... DH> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'er right. I did mean to say Scale and not Shift. But it boils down to he wanted to slow down his animation and the way to do it, as far as I know, would be to add more frames and not less....right? I know that in preview you can look at an animation with the different frame settings but I didn't know of a way to do it once you want to render it since video plays back at 30 frames and to my knoledge that's the only way LW can render out. .........md Article: 16258 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: toastrguy@aol.com (ToastRGuy) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Animation Question Date: 6 Apr 1996 16:43:31 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 11 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k6oi3$g8q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3156B21C.41C67EA6@gie.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <3156B21C.41C67EA6@gie.com>, David Forbus writes: >You will be limited as to how much movement is in the scene. Rule of thumb... your animated overlay should be no more than a quarter of the screen. It will crap out after frame 1 if there's a problem ________________________________________________________________________ Don James The Computer Room Colorado's Desktop Video Specialists 2760 S. Havana St. Aurora, CO 80014 (303) 696-8973 Article: 16259 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!news.enteract.com!news.inap.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsb From: toastrguy@aol.com (ToastRGuy) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: I can't get LightWave 4.0 to save my animations... HELP! Date: 6 Apr 1996 16:44:11 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 21 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k6ojb$g9i@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article , B.F.Bosch@kub.nl (HardCad) writes: >When I make an animation with LightWave and go to the record menu, and look >at >the animation file format, there is nothing there... It says -none- And when >I click on it, the only option I have is none. When I'm finished rendering, >and I have given my animation a name, nothing is saved on disk... >How come??? I have more experience with 3DS, but is LightWave better??? What platform are you on? If it's the Flyer, go to layout/options and click on add plug ins. Choose Lightwave/clipsaver. If it's another platform, you need to add the correct plug-in ________________________________________________________________________ Don James The Computer Room Colorado's Desktop Video Specialists 2760 S. Havana St. Aurora, CO 80014 (303) 696-8973 Article: 16260 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!news From: tekell@art.unt.edu (steve) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Pc ZIP disks in a MAC zip drive?? Date: 6 Apr 1996 22:23:02 GMT Organization: UNT Visual Arts Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4k6qs6$6ul@hermes.acs.unt.edu> References: <4juu58$ad1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <4jvrsa$9up@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab2tcpc2.art.unt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article <4jvrsa$9up@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, chewie8625@aol.com says... > >>>>Here is the question..Say i have a ZIP disk formatted in a Pc zip >drive..IF I use PC-Exchange on the mac, will teh Mac Zip drive read teh >PC zip disk????<<< > >Sure will, do it all the time. > >-Emile Edwin Smith >-An about to graduate student in Visual Arts >-Need a janitor? Have you had any problems with this? Curious - I have. Some MACs here will read them and others don't (yes PCExcange and ZIP Tools are installed). I have also had my Hiearchical File Structure destroyed when copying folders of folders onto a PCDisk a couple of times. Article: 16261 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jkrause357@aol.com (JKrause357) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: MICHIGAN LIGHTWAVE ARTST Date: 6 Apr 1996 17:35:40 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 2 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k6rjs$h6r@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: jkrause357@aol.com (JKrause357) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Looking for Michigan Lightwave Artist for a few brush up lessons. can pay $50.00 per hour Article: 16262 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: phonecop@aol.com (PHONE COP) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: WTB: Intel/PC LW 4.0 latest rev Date: 6 Apr 1996 17:39:57 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 5 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k6rrt$h94@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: phonecop@aol.com (PHONE COP) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Please reply if you or someone you know has LW 4.0 for sale. Thanks, Terry Article: 16263 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!in-news.erinet.com!usenet From: Andrew Hofman Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: PictureBlack Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 18:06:55 -0500 Organization: LumaQuest Productions, Dayton, OH Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3166F90F.742A@erinet.com> References: <3166B9CE.4A0E@erinet.com> <4k6les$f5l@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edlp025.erinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) RobAnims wrote: > > Thanks Andrew. Looks Like I'll have to Get a PVR. I'm still neting from > the Alpha to a PAR on my Amiga 3000. > > Tnx It works with the Amiga PAR also! The procedure is just a little different, as there is no button in the PAR interface (at least not the last version I used, months ago). Anyway, to activate zeroblack, you need to add the line SETUP=0 to your icon info for the PAR. Then restart the software. -- Andrew Hofman LumaQuest Productions andyh@erinet.com 513-643-7333 Article: 16264 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Cel Look and Macroform plugins? Was Re: experimental features?!? Date: 6 Apr 1996 23:45:58 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4k6vnm$p43@news.accessone.com> References: <31659F41.3C77@online.ultranet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > Jason Andreas writes: > > DO NOT DOWNLOAD cartoon.zip. It was placed on ftp.newtek.com for someone (adam chrystie) > to try for a specific scene. To get the latest version for intel, amiga, alpha and SGI > goto to http://tomahawk.grandi.com or http://isys.ml.org > The filenames will be carb_*.zip The "cartoon.zip" bares no resemblance to the more > upto date version. Within the next fews day I will release a rev. C that is even better > looking with more features/options. WooHOO! Great work, thanks Jason! ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16265 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!news.sol.net!daily-planet.execpc.com!earth!pana From: pana@earth.execpc.com (Blake Porter) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Not enough memory for RGB buffs? Date: 7 Apr 1996 00:04:36 GMT Organization: Exec-PC Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4k70qk$dek@daily-planet.execpc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: earth-le1.execpc.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] 2-Chip 16-Fast: Why do I have a memory problem? I'm compositing a back ground Image [Live video] and forground Image [live video] with Text. It will not render, as there is " NOT ENOUGH MEMORY FOR RGB BUFFERS" I'm sure this is memory intensive but... Any suggestions Blake Article: 16266 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news From: Jeff Jasper Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 19:05:22 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <316706C2.3CEC@osu.edu> References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31633351.3E7C@osu.edu> <4k4463$vov@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip5-6.acs.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB2 (WinNT; I) Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14345 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16266 comp.graphics.animation:33995 > Well in the above statements I see nothing that brings any value to the list. > If someone feels a need to carry on this thread at least list ALL these > great features Max has that LW don't. If you can't bring anything to the > table other than when my puppy is born it's going to br better than your dog > then give it a rest. I think this multi list stuff sucks. If I want to read > about max I know where the 3dS list is, I can go there. BTW if you do compile > a list of all these killer features restrict it to those that only come with > the program. If you don't have the info then your not really in a position > to be saying anything For a features list and some screen shots of MAX check out... http://server1.autodesk.com/prod/mm/3dmax.htm Jeff Article: 16267 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!EU.net!sun4nl!xs4all!usenet From: Remko Steenstra Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Matrox Millenium and Orion Conspiracy ? Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 01:44:12 -0800 Organization: none Lines: 20 Message-ID: <31678E6C.409E@xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: asd07-14.dial.xs4all.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Hi folks This question is rather out of place here, but since there's no Matrox Millenium newsgroup, and a lot a Matrox owners seem to frequent this one, I'll give it a try. Won't do it again. :) Has anyone with a Matrox been able to run 'The Orion Conspiracy' ? On my system it locks up just after the intro. I've installed a patch which was supposed to fix this problem, but to no effect. Please mail any experiences with this problem. Thanks for your patience. Remko Graduate student of Image- & MediaTechnology Freelance ElectroGig operator Article: 16268 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: gregtee@ix.netcom.com(William Teegarden) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Star Wars and LightWave Date: 6 Apr 1996 07:40:38 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 40 Message-ID: <4k575m$qj@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <19960325.77BFE80.FC26@bbs.newtek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lax-ca20-17.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Apr 06 1:40:38 AM CST 1996 In <19960325.77BFE80.FC26@bbs.newtek.com> chuck@bbs.newtek.com (Chuck Baker) writes: > >On Sat 16-Mar-1996 19:12 , Jay wrote: > >J> >pin-hole light sources. Models tend to have round specular highlights >J> >instead of elongated bursts seen on real objects. Look at an ad for a >J> >new car and you'll see what I mean. These issues are addressable, but >J> >they requier alot of work on the part of the artist. In fact. > >J> The highlights you see on new car ads are not generally "natural". >J> Photographing cars for ads is a semi-speciality in itself. Those >J> highlights are obtained by using very long and wide light sources so that >J> there is one continuous reflection along the car's body. Beverages ads for >J> beverages that are packaged in bottles use the same technique. > >Look at a new car ad and you're seeing a tribute to the airbrush, either the >literal thing or the virtual one in somebody's software package. Both print >and video ads undergo considerable post-processing and are no indicators of >what a natural look is. They do look "cool". Not true. While they do undergo considerable retouching, the overall appearence of the reflected light sources is due to the shape of the reflecting surface and that of the source light. The airbrush is not responsible for the "look" seen in ads, but rather, the other way around. GT Article: 16269 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news From: Jeff Jasper Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 19:21:17 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 30 Message-ID: <31670A7D.7EE7@osu.edu> References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31633351.3E7C@osu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip5-6.acs.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB2 (WinNT; I) Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14347 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16269 comp.graphics.animation:33997 > As I recall, most of the bugs with the 4.0 pre-release were related to the > HIIP filters. Additionally, 4.0 was a port to a completely different > platform!! 5.0 release won't have either these issues to deal with so it > really doesn't make a lot of sense to compare the 4.0 pre-release with a 5.0 > release. I had 4.0 pre-release and found that it was stable. The program was > not inclined to crash - whether rendering or not. It was perfectly acceptable > for our production work (video graphics). In fact, most of the bugs had no > effect on us at all since we did not have a need for the HIIP filters. > > This doesn't mean that 5.0 will not be buggy. It could go either > way depending on how much is changed and how much has been tested. The > situations surrounding 4.0 pre-release and the rumored 5.0 release are > significantly different though. > > So - will MAX have a competitive upgrade offer? I really didn't mean it as an attack, it just seemed odd that NewTek was releasing 5.0 so soon. I guess MAX and Softimage will keep them with their faces glued to their code for a while. Maybe now that NewTek is really on the defensive by competing on the PC animation market we will see new even wilder stuff that will make us all ewww and ahh. I would like to see a 5.0 version with all the niceties of MAX or Softimage at a fraction of the price. I'm just hopeing that NewTek isn't rushing 5.0 out the door to meet MAX's ship date. You have to remember that the Yost group has been working on MAX for about 2 years, Newtek doesn't need to rush anything to the market that isn't ready yet. Hopefully that since they have been able to work most the bugs out with 4.0 that 5.0 has been easy fixes and a few new features. I guess we can only wait and see what happens at NAB. Not sure if Autodesk offers cometitive pricing, does anyone else know? Jeff Article: 16270 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: gregtee@ix.netcom.com(William Teegarden) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW faster than 3DS ? Date: 6 Apr 1996 07:55:15 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4k5813$7po@cloner3.netcom.com> References: <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lax-ca20-17.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Apr 05 11:55:15 PM PST 1996 In <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> Andreas Resch writes: > >I have been working with 3DS 4 on a PC and with PowerAnimator on an SGI > >I heard (from NewTek) that Lightwave is much faster than 3DS in >rendering/raytracing. > >I would like to know : IS IT TRUE ?? > >and how much faster is it ? > >Any comments welcome > >Andreas Resch On simple scenes with few lights and objects, 3DS will render considerably faster than LW. On complex scenes however, LW has the advantage, especially with scenes involving many lights. Raytracing is slow in LW, but it is selective, so you can trace only parts of the image which does speed things up a lot. GT Article: 16271 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: gregtee@ix.netcom.com(William Teegarden) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 6 Apr 1996 08:08:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4k58ps$1oc@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <4k4ohd$sgs@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lax-ca20-17.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Apr 06 2:08:28 AM CST 1996 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14349 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16271 comp.graphics.animation:33999 > --->NewTek's hold in Hollywood for television visual effects is tenuous.<---- Possibly, but it's starting to make significant inroads to the feature film industry. And I'm not talking about films like Freddy's Revenge Part IX, but the "A" marquee type films reserved for major studios. GT gregt@d2.com Article: 16272 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!news00.sunet.se!sunic!mn6.swip.net!mn5.swip.net!news From: videoking@mbox200.swipnet.se (Johan Otterstrom) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: CybergraphicX on LightWave 4.0?? Date: 07 Apr 96 02:28:36 -500 Organization: - Lines: 38 Message-ID: <1694.6671T148T1821@mbox200.swipnet.se> References: <509.6667T702T88@mbox200.swipnet.se> <3166fb49.18596185@news.infi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup102-4-7.swipnet.se NNTP-Posting-User: 3a9622cd6c88f300a7e6b08629051e1a X-Newsreader: THOR 2.22 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* >Use NewMode to promote JUST the Modeler screen and the Layout >screen.... make sure that it is ONLY promoting those screens. I'm well aware about NewMode. The problem is in Layout when you promote it, animation preview no longer works (invisible!). This renders ;) LightWave quite useless for animation work (the reason I got it in the first place). Also when you promote Layout things get really SLOW!!! I don't know why? I use a Piccolo SD64 4Mb with CGX, which really rock 'n' rolls in all other aplications, even modeler is really quick. I think it's a big joke that NewTek dont realise/care that the Amiga version of LightWave needs a true CybergraphX screenmode for Layout! But it's easy to forget who made you rich when the PC market is so large. The only time I got Layout to work (showing animation previews) was with my old Retina Z2, which forced it to refresh. But since the Z2 card is really slow the speed was'nt quite enough. This is also a reason to why I want someone with a Draco to tell me how it works with LW4.0. (Draco uses a special version of Retina Z3, which is really the fastest around, easily outperforms Cybervision, due to the fact that the card is in a Draco directslot 35Mb/sec against the processor). >There is also a Cybergraphics render device posted on Aminet. I saw this one at a friends house and it really worked great!! But this is really what should have been included by NewTek!! >I am running LW on Cybergraphics version 2.16 and they fixed all the >buggies with screen refreshes, i.e. the grid in modeler now refreshed >properly. I know the modeler is not a problem! You just cant have a moving solid preview. videoking@mbox200.swipnet.se Article: 16273 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: fwtep@earthlink.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Frames Per Second? Date: Sun, 07 Apr 96 02:05:24 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.85.95.109 X-Newsreader: Quarterdeck Message Center [2.00] On 4/6/96 9:05AM, in message , Mark Dunakin wrote: > > You'er right. I did mean to say Scale and not Shift. But it boils down to he > wanted to slow down his animation and the way to do it, as far as I know, > would be to add more frames and not less....right? I know that in preview you > can look at an animation with the different frame settings but I didn't know > of a way to do it once you want to render it since video plays back at 30 > frames and to my knoledge that's the only way LW can render out. > > .........md Mark, Actually, Lightwave doesn't render at ANY speed. It renders individual frames. How fast you play them back is up to you. If you put them out to film, the speed will depend on how fast that film is projected, with 24fps being the standard in this country for sound film. If you put it to video, once again it depends how fast you play it back, with 30fps or 60 *fields* per second being the standard in this country. Lightwave itself has nothing to do with any of this. -- -=Fred=- Article: 16274 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: chewie8625@aol.com (Chewie8625) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Pc ZIP disks in a MAC zip drive?? Date: 6 Apr 1996 21:14:59 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 10 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k78f3$lfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4k6qs6$6ul@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Reply-To: chewie8625@aol.com (Chewie8625) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com The only problems I have had have to do with space on the disk. If you put too much info on the drive when it is on a PC you may not leave enough room on the disk for the mac's desktop info such as the trash, etc. It has worked for me everytime otherwise though, are you turning on and off extensions to do video or some such other intensive work that needs a clean system? Maybe you are forgetting to turn back on PC exchange sometimes. Good luck. -Emile Edwin Smith -An about to graduate student in Visual Arts -Need a janitor? Article: 16275 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: lightwave for pc Date: 7 Apr 1996 03:12:03 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4k7bq3$2nt@news.accessone.com> References: <4k5f6q$89r@argentina.it.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > "Warren W. James" writes: > >> Why don't you just buy LW like everyone else?? Yeah I know you want to > >> leach off of everyone else. You are a disgrace to this industry. > > > >Why don`t we all club together and buy the guy it. > > > > Better yet, why don't we all just get together and club the guy. I'll buy the club. ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16276 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 7 Apr 1996 03:13:33 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4k7bst$2nt@news.accessone.com> References: <4k3n0i$hfh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) writes: > No, they often ship when the economics require that they ship. And with > sales where they have been, Wow, they still show you the sales figures, Lee? ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16277 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW faster than 3DS ? Date: 7 Apr 1996 03:15:45 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4k7c11$2nt@news.accessone.com> References: <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > Andreas Resch writes: > I have been working with 3DS 4 on a PC and with PowerAnimator on an SGI > > I heard (from NewTek) that Lightwave is much faster than 3DS in > rendering/raytracing. > > I would like to know : IS IT TRUE ?? I don't think ANYBODY knows. BYTE magazine used to have a "standard" 3d scene that they would render to comparitively benchmark across applications, but even that was questionable. Without benchmark scenes, I feel that opinions don't matter much. ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16278 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: chipdaddy@aol.com (ChipDaddy) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW and Edge3D Date: 6 Apr 1996 23:12:47 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 2 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k7fbv$nsi@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <31594F5A.D82@xs4all.nl> Reply-To: chipdaddy@aol.com (ChipDaddy) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com What is "Edge3D"? Thanks Article: 16279 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news2.acs.oakland.edu!server3.mich.com!pm001-21.dialip.mich.com!marrocco From: Sam Marrocco Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Pc ZIP disks in a MAC zip drive?? Date: 7 Apr 1996 04:20:42 GMT Organization: mich.com, Inc., Farmington, Michigan Lines: 4 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4k7fqq$bcl@server3.mich.com> References: <4juu58$ad1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm001-21.dialip.mich.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.3_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 04:21:56 GMT Try formatting the Zip cartidges as DOS in your MAC. I've had lots of trouble reading Zips on my Macs when they were formatted with Amiga/CrossDOS or on a PC (SCSI-ZIP). Once they are formatted in the Mac, I never have any trouble. Good Luck! Article: 16281 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news From: Bryant Reif Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: MICHIGAN LIGHTWAVE ARTST Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 22:05:49 -0500 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3167310D.3EE3@pilot.msu.edu> References: <4k6rjs$h6r@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cnc045197.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) JKrause357 wrote: > > Looking for Michigan Lightwave Artist for a few brush up lessons. > can pay $50.00 per hour Where are you located in Michigan? -- Bryant Reif mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant Article: 16282 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.sojourn.com!news.eecs.umich.edu!nntp.neu.edu!johnson From: From: Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95,alt.2600,alt.bi Subject: Re: HOW TO DO A BATCH HTTP FILE DOWNLOAD Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 04:52:04 GMT Organization: Organization: Lines: 21 Sender: pa_bdg@hendrix.coe.neu.edu Message-ID: <316739ae.18791819@129.10.1.13> References: <315df4e7.30083078@nntp.loop.com> <31601c49.6539557@news.compuserve.com> <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com> <3161a179.438764@news.earthlink.net> Reply-To: Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: a-206-41.sp.neu.edu Summary: Smart ass kid X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34005 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16282 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:13335 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14353 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x:1367 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95:7610 alt.26 At exactly Tue, 02 Apr 1996 21:54:41 GMT, the user known as hybridv, hybridv wrote: [relevant discussion snipped] ---shut the FUCK up loser... Win95 Does better multitasking then os/2 by ---far obviously you have either a shitty computer or you just suck... --- ---i can run 3d studio, 2 versions of netscape, 2 versions of agent, and ---adobe premiere 4.2 all at the same time with no noticble slow down or ---crashes... therefor you dont know how to fucking setup your computer ---or your just a dumbass... --- ---HybridV --- Maybe you would do better by running Mario teaches typing and MS Bookshelf at the same time. Go skip your high school study hall and get hooked on phonics dickhead. Article: 16283 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.interlog.com!news From: Hammed Malik Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: realistic reflections when compositing. Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 01:21:36 -0500 Organization: InterLog Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <31675EF0.46B@interlog.com> References: <3165D567.680F@iea.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip93-9.tor.interlog.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) David R. Stromberger wrote: > The problem is that chrome reflects > the "shadow alpha" objects, which is NOT what I > want.... since the "shadow alpha" objects are > supposed to be solid black, this makes for some > really ugly looking reflections. Turn on 'unseen by rays' for the shadow planes. This will allow the planes to recieve shadows and not show up in reflections. hammed Article: 16284 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!news.enteract.com!news.inap.net!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: tpsm99@aol.com (TPSM99) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: NewTek@NAB Date: 7 Apr 1996 03:37:19 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 19 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k7rbf$rmr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: tpsm99@aol.com (TPSM99) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com "Hi, I've been asked to tell you (in case you have not heard) the following; NewTek will hold its NAB96 soiree and product/users meeting on Tuesday April 16th, 9PM at "The Beach" across from the Las Vegas Convention Center. Tickets will be required as space is limited! Tickets will be available _ONLY_ on a first come, first serve basis, starting Monday morning at the NewTek Booth #M51952. Be there or be a four sided 3D object of rectangular shape! ;) All The Best, Tom Patrick Editor Video Toaster User PS Watch VTU and LIGHTWAVEPRO for _all_ the details!" Article: 16285 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!lori.albany.net!magik.albany.net!not-for-mail From: dwarner@magik.albany.net (David Warner) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Star Wars and LightWave Date: 7 Apr 1996 07:38:58 GMT Organization: AlbanyNet - E-mail info@albany.net Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4k7rei$btj@lori.albany.net> References: <19960329.7A505D0.B8D9@bbs.newtek.com> <2744.6662T882T800@execpc.com> <4joi4l$9ec$1@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au> <5340.6665T635T2956@execpc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: magik.albany.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Ernie Wright (erniew@access.digex.net) wrote: : What you need here is a *force* diagram. WHAT?! No formula? Geez Ernie, I'm disappointed. =) -David Warner dwarner@albany.net http://www.albany.net/~dwarner Only 8 days until the Lightspeed Animation Contest deadline!! - Article: 16286 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: 60,000 point limit? Date: 7 Apr 1996 07:48:18 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 21 Message-ID: <4k7s02$brq@news.accessone.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > Ernie Wright writes: > > -- Mike "too bad C is such a cruddy language" Bartman -- > > Hay, NO WAY doooooooooood!!!!!!!!! C is > the > kewlest!!!!!!!!! > > flame flame what irrelevant newsgroup can I crosspost this to??????? > > - Ernie > (where's my medication...) I got it right here: extra foam, right? ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16287 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 7 Apr 1996 07:51:53 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4k7s6p$brq@news.accessone.com> References: <4k4463$vov@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () writes: > Well in the above statements I see nothing that brings any value to the list. > If someone feels a need to carry on this thread at least list ALL these > great features Max has that LW don't. STOP RIGHT THERE! How about NOT continuing the thread? A much better place IMHO for this is in comp.graphics.animation, not either of the two dedicated groups. Too flammable. ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16288 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Star Wars and LightWave Date: 7 Apr 1996 07:55:15 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4k7sd3$brq@news.accessone.com> References: <4k4ahm$bpg@scoop.eco.twg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > mike@vishnu.eco.twg.com (This space intentionally left blank) writes: > In article , dloubet@origin.ea.com (Denis Loubet) writes: > Good! Personally I like a universe where all isn't goodness and light, or > all darkness and shaddows. ST is all wonderfullness. S:A&B is all darkness > and danger. B5 is still trying to decide which way it will go and I like > watching to see. weeeEEEELLLllll, actually JMS has already decided: it's just, when is he gonna tell US? > Schizophrenia beats being alone. ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16289 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: achan@ix.netcom.com(Alan Chan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,alt.design.graphics,comp.graphics.apps.alias Subject: Re: Web Design & Pantone to RGB Date: 6 Apr 1996 18:12:54 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4k6c76$pou@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4jsbc9$r79@news1.io.org> <4jt0c9$d7d@nntp1.best.com> <316346F9.167E@wn.planet.gen.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: whx-ca2-21.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Apr 06 10:12:54 AM PST 1996 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.sys.amiga.graphics:47204 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16289 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:14612 alt.design.graphics:1685 comp.graphics.apps.alias:1503 In wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes: > >We have a Pantone Swatch book. I enter the CMYK values printed on the >swatch into Photoshop's color picker and then note the RGB values that were >generated. This gets you in the ballpark. Why go to all that trouble? Photoshop has a Pantone set built in under Custom Colors in the Picker. AC Article: 16290 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 7 Apr 1996 05:07:20 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 19 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k80k8$sro@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4k7s6p$brq@news.accessone.com> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com ------------------------ How about NOT continuing the thread? A much better place IMHO for this is in comp.graphics.animation, not either of the two dedicated groups. ---------------------------------- I dunno - I don't read comp.graphics.animation....substantive arguments are fine by me....don't read the thread if you don't want the heat.... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16291 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!nuhou.aloha.net!news From: Todd Mizomi Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Image Sequences & Pyromania Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 01:43:33 -1000 Organization: Hawaii OnLine - Honolulu, HI Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3167AA65.493E@aloha.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: maui-49.u.aloha.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Sorry if this topic has been discussed before. (Could someone put it in the FAQ?) We're having trouble using Pyromania image sequences in lightwave. When we load an image sequence in, map it onto something and do a test render, no image sequence. We are NOT test rendering frame 0, always something like frame 30 or 50, where there the image sequence should be well underway, but so far zip. If anyone has solutions or tips, please email us at mcgyver@aloha.net Thank You Todd Mizomi Photographics Maui Maui, Hawaii Article: 16292 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!laura.pcug.co.uk!scribendum!stephenb Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Message-ID: <1197@scribendum.win-uk.net> References: <19960401.7953E30.EEAE@bbs.newtek.com> <4jti7a$oc1@irk.zetnet.co.uk><4k5f6q$89r@argentina.it.earthlink.net> Reply-To: stephenb@scribendum.win-uk.net (Stephen Benson) From: stephenb@scribendum.win-uk.net (Stephen Benson) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 10:07:00 GMT Subject: Re: lightwave for pc Lines: 16 >>> Why don't you just buy LW like everyone else?? Yeah I know you want to >>> leach off of everyone else. You are a disgrace to this industry. >> >>Why don`t we all club together and buy the guy it. >> > >Better yet, why don't we all just get together and club the guy. > Better yet, why don't we all assume we all already know that a fair number of people get really irritated by someone getting something for free which they paid for. We could up the signal/noise ratio no end without the endless posts by individuals competing to demonstrate the intense quality of their righteous indignation.... Article: 16293 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!xs4all!usenet From: The Hitchhiker Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW and Edge3D Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 14:40:29 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3167B7BD.17BD@xs4all.nl> References: <31594F5A.D82@xs4all.nl> <4k7fbv$nsi@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: asd07-25.dial.xs4all.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) ChipDaddy wrote: > > What is "Edge3D"? > Thanks The Edge3D is an Windows95 2D-3D accelerator. It supports every Microsoft DirectX API, (Direct3D verry soon). It can do realtime 3d rendering,(when the software supports it)! It's a giant in chains. When Microsoft releases Direct3D it will be unchained and then the result will be unbelievable!! On my page are some link to other Edge info, check it out.... ____ __ __ ___ ____ __ __ ___ / / |/ \/ \/ _/ GreetZzzz from Rob Koopman / / |/ \/ \/ _/ _/ / ^ | ^ / ^ / _/ roko@xs4all.nl _/ / ^ | ^ / ^ / _/ /__/_/|_|/\_\/\_\__/ http://www.xs4all.nl/~roko /__/_/|_|/\_\/\_\__/ Article: 16294 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!news.compulink.co.uk!cix.compulink.co.uk!usenet From: glynw@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Glyn Williams") Subject: Re: LW faster than 3DS ? Message-ID: Organization: Compulink Information eXchange References: <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> Distribution: world Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:36:42 GMT X-News-Software: Ameol Lines: 28 > I have been working with 3DS 4 on a PC and with PowerAnimator on an SGI > > I heard (from NewTek) that Lightwave is much faster than 3DS in > rendering/raytracing. > > I would like to know : IS IT TRUE ?? > > and how much faster is it ? > > Any comments welcome > > Andreas Resch Andreas, If you create an ultra simple scene a single lit cube. And you wish to render it with a single lightsource and full antialiasing - 3DS will abolutely stuff Lightwave by a factor of about 10 to 1. In a rendering of a architectural scene - running on a 486 - Lightwave was rendering video res frames (with sun-cast shadows) in about 15mins. 3DS (rendering without shadows) was taking about 11 hours per frame! 3DS version 1 through 4 have appalling virtual memory support which means that if the memory requirements for a rendered scene exeed the actual memory of a machine. You might as well give up. I have heard that running under OS2 improves this situation considerably. None of this applies to MAX Glyn Williams - Particle Systems Ltd. Article: 16295 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshost.vvm.com!usenet From: Paul Lara Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: lightwave for pc Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 09:35:54 -0500 Organization: VDO Productions Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3167D2CA.3B04@vvm.com> References: <4k5f6q$89r@argentina.it.earthlink.net> <4k7bq3$2nt@news.accessone.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip8.vvm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) jeric@accessone.com wrote: "Warren W. James" writes: Why don't you just buy LW like everyone else?? Yeah I know you want to leach off of everyone else. You are a disgrace to this industry. Why don`t we all club together and buy the guy it. Better yet, why don't we all just get together and club the guy. I'll buy the club. I've already lined the trunk of my car with plastic liner, so the little turd's blood won't be a problem (O.J. showed me this cool trick) Article: 16296 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshost.vvm.com!usenet From: Paul Lara Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek@NAB Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 09:40:12 -0500 Organization: VDO Productions Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3167D3CC.7232@vvm.com> References: <4k7rbf$rmr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip8.vvm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) > > Be there or be a four sided 3D object of rectangular shape! ;) Hey Tom, last time I looked, my simple 3D objects had 6 sides!! :^) I hope to see you there at NAB! Why no Toaster User's Pavillion this year? Article: 16297 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!earth.superlink.net!usenet From: snidely@toontown.com (Snidley Whiplash) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95,alt.2600,alt.26 Subject: Re: HOW TO DO A BATCH HTTP FILE DOWNLOAD hybridv=putz - NO HybridV's RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG BOXHOLDER (see inside) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 15:23:39 GMT Organization: ToonLand Lines: 215 Sender: WesternUnion, tele@WesternUnion Message-ID: <3167b4d6.963211544@news.superlink.net> References: <315df4e7.30083078@nntp.loop.com> <31601c49.6539557@news.compuserve.com> <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com> <3161a179.438764@news.earthlink.net> <4k5bvp$d28@usenet7.interramp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: e28.superlink.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34013 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16297 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:13352 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14362 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x:1370 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95:7628 alt.26 The definition of concurrent multi-tasking is exactly as HybridV implied in his post. It is the execution of multiple tasks (or jobs, programs) within a single computer (in fact, the number of processors involved is, strictly speaking, irrelevant - but it is usually one). And, unfortunately there are only two methods to achieve this, non pre-emptive or pre-emptive. The first is the method used by Windows 3.x, voluntary surrender of the processor by each application, and the second, pre-emptive (the operating system employs a mechanism, usually an interval timer interrupt, to seize the processor) is employed by Windows 95. Since the pre-emptive method is considered to be the more advanced, or best for most purposes, (well, at least, easier to fairly allot system resources among contending tasks) it could be accurately stated that Windows 95 uses the best method available for multi-tasking. And, it does indeed use an advanced, self-tuning, highly dynamic task switching algorithm to accomplish this. The only significant shortcoming occurs when 16-bit, real-mode apps begin to hog resources. That's the penalty, or compromise, that Microsoft purposely built-in to accomodate this legacy software. It's no secret, Microsoft does not attempt to conceal this fact, and if you can live without those old real-mode apps, Windows NT provides a highly advanced platform (that also supports multiPROCESSING) without the legacy app compromise. And, like 95, it can STILL run most 16-bit WINapps without noticable performance penalties for the 32-bit tasks. In your heated exchange with HybridV, you are confusing the very terms with which you are attempting to prove your, unfortunately 180 degree out-of-phase, point. That is to say, you are confusing the definition of multiprocessing with that of multi-tasking. I think most experts will agree that multiprocessing, when strictly interpreted does not necessarily need to imply multi-tasking. In fact, there are a large number of (classic model) multi-processing applications in which a number of simultaneous calculations takes place within a single application. Strictly speaking, one must call these simultaneous activities application threads, but, in this model, it is common for only one application to be present within the computer. In fact, many early, and most current, implementations of multi-processing systems, were/are unable to assign processors to application *tasks*, rather, they usually dedicated ONE processor to ALL application tasks/jobs while using another for operating system processing and, often, a third for disk ops, a fourth for communications I/O, etc. This architecture is termed asymmetric multiprocessing due to the fact that the processors are functionally non-symmetrical in function (caused by the extreme difficulty in dynamically switching tasks amongst processors *on the fly* using software or software/hardware). Perversely, the very CDC 6400 you spoke of worked almost exactly the same way as Windows 95 when it comes down to processing APPLICATION tasks. In that model, ALL of them were, in fact, handled by the central or master processor (we could call this the Central Processing Unit or CPU here too). The slave processors were simply intelligent (albeit programmable) controllers capable of performing bus-mastering DMA through cycle-stealing. And, argue though you may, this architecture was quite similar to that of the IBM 360 series which called its slave processors *channels* and, heirarchically further down the line, *control-units* (however, these units were programmable only using non-volatile firmware). They did, however, execute high-level programs that were passed to them by the operating system but resident in main storage. You could extend this argument without a great deal of exaggeration to say that my own Windows 95 and NT machines, while they employ only 1 Pentium each, perform multiprocessing on a level somewhat similar to your beloved 6400 due to the fact that I have installed intelligent controllers (with on-board programmable processors) to perform SCSI I/O, Digiboard controllers for Async & Sync serial I/O and 3D graphics accelerators (programmable) for video. Yes, I know you can't accept this but it is, nevertheless, functionally quite equivalent. Interestingly, Seymour Cray's elegantly designed CDC 6400 was, like many of CDC's products, ahead of its time, but NOT to the extent that it achieved symmetrical multi-processing. And, unfortunately, like virtually all other computers of the second, third and fourth hardware generations, it was forced into relative obscurity in the shadow of IBM's incredible marketing, sales and support phenomenon. And, like the products of all of the other vendors, the lack of this type of vendor support resulted in these machines having a reputation for unreliability and extreme difficulty of installation. For example, back in 1969 my fiance worked, as a systems analyst, for a company (time-sharing vendor) that had 2 CDC 6400s and some GE 5XXs. These machines were ALWAYS undergoing service and, to my knowlege, they were never 100% up - something was always undergoing repair/diagnosis. The covers were open, 'scopes and diagnostic boxes hanging out of them, etc. Furthermore, when they installed the second 6400, it took 4 months to get the machine running well enough to put into production and even then it crashed daily for another 2 months. This place was around the corner from where I worked, and in those innocent pre security-conscious days I would cut through (my fiance's employer's) computer room almost every day for 3 years to get to her office, so I saw this first-hand. I often had detailed conversations about some of the on-going installation or maintenance activities with the operations staff and CDC engineers, while waiting for my fiance. During that same time-frame, in the IBM shop, where I was a systems programmer, we commonly experienced 99%-plus uptime, and, with the exception of an occasional printer, tape-drive or console typewriter outage we rarely saw a machine open. Don't get me wrong, I believe that the CDC 6400 was a better architecture and, with the blue plexiglass cabinetry and dual round, blue console CRTs, certainly a visually striking machine; but the I/O devices were Yugos and the production and mechanical engineering needed for reliability just wasn't there for the electronics either. These machines didn't cost more than the high-end IBM iron we were using - at least in terms of initial purchase price - the reason "damn few companies" could afford them was that they couldn't afford the down-time. IBM simply made superbly engineered electronic AND mechanical equipment that was unquestionably superior to any product (of ANY type - auto, aircraft, building, watch, computer) I've seen before or since. Why is it that every technical discussion in these groups always degenerates into a name-calling, insult-slinging, sexual-preference questioning, personal-hygene impugning, bestiality and necromania accusing, political-belief ridiculing, racial overtone carrying tirade whenever someone expresses an opinion? Are we all so closed minded that we can't even ENTERTAIN the idea of someone having an opinion that differs from our own? Or are we SO afraid we're wrong? NAH... it's fun! You stupid, cock-sucking, dog-shit eating, dead-camel fucking, baby-raping, altzheimer-ridden, senile, boxholding, miserable douche-bag excuse for a room-temperature IQed technical expert. Next time clean the shit out of your eyes, ears, nose and throat; take the time to get YOUR fucking terminology straight; engage what's left of your clearly defective, single-threaded, 8008-powered, COBOL-coded, ISAM-searching, brain before you verbally drop your pants and butt-fuck yourself with your own flame-thrower on nation-wide media again. I know, don't say it, you've forgotten more than you ever knew. On Sat, 06 Apr 1996 09:01:10 GMT, BOXHOLDER@OCCUPANT.FedEx.net (Boxholder) wrote: >On Tue, 02 Apr 1996 21:54:41 GMT, hybridv, hybridv wrote: > >>On Tue, 02 Apr 1996 12:48:53 -0800, "Frank O. Schaefer" >> wrote: >> >>>Rascal wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sun, 31 Mar 1996 03:04:36 GMT, spader@idt.com (Spader) wrote: >>>> >>>> >Ever want to just leave your computer to download 5 files? Now you >>>> >can (you can download as many files as you want, one by one)!! >>>> > >>>> >Visit: >>>> > >>>> >http://www.loop.com/~maeder/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >Your Welcome, >>>> > >>>> >Spader >>>> If you use WIN95 you can download multipule files. >>>> M-U-L-T-I-T-A-S-K-I-N-G!!!!!!! >>> >>>If you haven't already noticed: >>>Win95 does not do real multitasking Win95 is pure SHIT ! >>>You should use a real multitasking environment instead ! >>>And if your on a PC the only thing for YOU is OS/2 !! >>> >>>-- >>>THE DARK SITE - Psycho's Hompepage... >>>http://www-city.europeonline.com/cyberhome/psycho/home.htm >> >> >>shut the FUCK up loser... Win95 Does better multitasking then os/2 by >>far obviously you have either a shitty computer or you just suck... >> >>i can run 3d studio, 2 versions of netscape, 2 versions of agent, and >>adobe premiere 4.2 all at the same time with no noticble slow down or >>crashes... therefor you dont know how to fucking setup your computer >>or your just a dumbass... >> >>HybridV >> >NO, I say again, NO WAY does WIN95 do "Multi-Tasking"! There is but >one processor and it is working on one program at a time! > >You may seem to be running a bunch of programs, but all you are doing >is splitting the clock cycles. Granted the Pxxx chip does the execute >shuffel rather fast so one would hardly notice the it is only working >on one executaable program at a time. BUT, it is doing just that "one >at a time". Unless you have a multi processor (eg a dual or quad >pentium) you are not and never will do multi tasking. It just aint >possible for one processor to think about two programs at once. > >The first popular multiprocessing computer was the CDC 6400 in the mid >to late 1960's and damn few places could afford one. It did have a >large redundant system of processors feeding off a single controll >processor. capable of running 22+ printers, 16 tape drives, 16 disk >pak units 4 7foot diameter 32 platter disk units, 200 telex hookups >and a few dozen card reader and other input mediums. that my little >twit is multitasking. > >What you are refering so proudly to is job switching. - - - So who is >the fucking ass hole here ??? Me thinks it is you fart face. Your >talking about things you only wish you knew. Try going to school in >stead of playing in sme chat room trying to impress the teeny bopper >jail bait. > >And yea I was writing in binary and octal before you were an evel >thought your father never should have carried out! >*************************************************** >Exxon and Exon - What a team they make! One shits on >the environment while the other shits on the people. > ***** FUCK the CDA of 1996. ***** >This message brought to you in spite of the loss of >our Bill of Rights. Member - The Outer Rim(less) >*************************************************** Article: 16298 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!hsno.wco.com!news.wco.com!news From: nite@asis.com (NiteShadow) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95,alt.2600,alt.26 Subject: Re: HOW TO DO A BATCH HTTP FILE DOWNLOAD Date: 7 Apr 1996 22:58:12 GMT Organization: West Coast Online's News Server - Not responsible for content Lines: 34 Message-ID: <4k9ha4$bpr@news.wco.com> References: <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com><316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com> <4jr45s$h53@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Reply-To: nite@asis.com NNTP-Posting-Host: port6.asis.com X-Newsreader: NeoLogic News for OS/2 [version: 4.5 YO Beta] Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34015 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16298 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:13357 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14366 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x:1375 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95:7631 alt.26 In message <4jr45s$h53@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> - stuart@aeolians.bt.co.uk (Stuart Smith)2 Apr 1996 11:48:12 GMT writes: :> :>In article <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com>, "Frank O. Schaefer" writes: :>>> >Spader :>>> If you use WIN95 you can download multipule files. :>>> M-U-L-T-I-T-A-S-K-I-N-G!!!!!!! :>> :>>If you haven't already noticed: :>>Win95 does not do real multitasking Win95 is pure SHIT ! :>>You should use a real multitasking environment instead ! :>>And if your on a PC the only thing for YOU is OS/2 !! .. :>Oh, and I take it you are referring to WARP. not OS/2? It's OS/2 Warp. WARP is OS/2 v3.0. Guess you are little "ignorant" in the area huh? :>And for most people Win95 will run multiple download sessions :>quite adequately for their needs. :> :>You don't say what wonderful computer you are using? Is it a :>NCube transputer box ? :> :>If it's a home computer, the Amiga is still the only truly :>pupose built OS multi-tasking computer available..... Win95 only provides speed increased when you are running 100% 32bit apps (including drivers!). -NiteShadow (nite@asis.com) Article: 16299 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!athena.cytanet.com.cy!zeus.cc.ucy.ac.cy!newsfeed.ACO.net!CARNet.hr!news From: dinko.cepak@zg.tel.hr (Dinko Cepak) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Modeler stops to work !!! Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 00:09:03 GMT Organization: CARNet, CROATIA Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4k9i2p$4af@bagan.srce.hr> Reply-To: dinko.cepak@zg.tel.hr NNTP-Posting-Host: cs4-p9-draskoviceva.tel.hr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Hi there !!! Something strage just happend to me ......... Today i have started my machine and Modeler won`t work any more Everything seams O.K. yesterday but today when i started Modeler it appears only for few moments and than pops out ( like there is no dongle ) but Lightwave works good........Any suggestions or help on this.............I have tried to reinstall software but that did not help ..........Than i have moved all to second machine and same there.......All that is hapening on P5-133 under NT 3.51.......(also same thing with Modeler rev. 4.0b , 4.0c and 4.0d)............. One more thing....who can i conntact if my dongle get screwd (but if that is truth how can Lightwawe and screamernet still work ???) Any help ????? Thanks Article: 16300 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.exodus.net!news.alt.net!newspost1.alt.net!usenet From: tkrego@norden1.com (Tim Krego) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Growing Flares Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 18:22:04 GMT Organization: pro.image Lines: 8 Message-ID: <31680796.4597410@news.alt.net> References: <4jtdps$ds9@news.enterprise.net> <4k1mgu$u5$1@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 On 5 Apr 1996 09:38:06 +1000, stevok@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au (Steven Johansen) wrote: > Hope im not being too offensive here,but > You are not reading the manuals(if you have them) > You are asking for help(and waiting for it) > instead of exploring the programs features. This is a country of mediocrity! ;) Article: 16301 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Invite to Cool NAB Event Date: 7 Apr 1996 23:56:20 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4k9kn4$d2v@news.accessone.com> References: <31664240.58A0@play.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > Kiki Stockhammer writes: > Hi, > > Just a note to readers > I hope no one minds my posting > non-Lightwave stuff here in the Lightwave group but many old friends > from my Toaster days read this conference and I wanted you to be able to > attend in case you're interested. > Uh-oh.,......did anyone send Kiki that "Mmmmmmmmm, Kiki..." thread we had going here last month? All her true fans are here! > See you there! > > Kiki ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16302 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jbooth411@aol.com (JBooth411) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: 60,000 point limit? Date: 7 Apr 1996 16:25:54 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 22 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k98ci$9mr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4k40eu$5hn@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <4k40eu$5hn@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>, mbc@po.cwru.edu (Michael B. Comet) writes: >> Whoever you spoke to did not know a thing about modeler. It's well >> known that it has a point and polygon limit of 65384. It will create >> objects above this, but will not save them.. > > I may be wrong but aren't all the limits listed somewhere in >the manuals? > > I don't know.. I rarely read the manuals, at least anymore.. Jason Booth Second Nature, Inc. "I'm programing a raytracer that only outputs in ASCII art! I'LL BE RICH!!!!" Article: 16303 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 7 Apr 1996 20:05:15 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 73 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k9l7r$dsv@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Pardon the rather meldodramatic thread title. It was to get you to read it. But this will be the most important show in NewTek's history. I can say this without hesitation. Many people left NAB '95 hopeful, but wondering. We waited for 4.0 to ship. NewTek was savvy enough to ship a "pre-release" version of LightWave, satisfying customers temporarily and giving them more time to complete their platform changes. The idea that they shipped 4.0 because they absolutely had to came up, and more people wondered. The idea always implied by NewTek was that they would hit the ground running with 4.0, and upgrades would be soon to follow. 4.0 was enough to scare Autodesk into moving on 3DS MAX, obviously a LightWave-killer, among other things. But 4.0 lagged. There were delays, and bugs, but we didn't worry. NewTek had a jumpstart on the NT market, a better interface than 3DS, and they couldn't let a vapor product like MAX actually beat them out, could they? We wondered. After an initial buzz on multiplatform 4.0, intrest trailed off. Time marched on. As I have discussed to absolute bordom, NewTek marketing trickled down to a drip. And if LightWave was a drip, Video Toaster for Windows was invisible. 4.0 finally shipped, and final glitches are being ironed out as we speak. But momentum has shifted to SoftImage NT, who's connection to Micro$oft and Play guarantees them both as the talk of the show, and MAX, who by all accounts is ready to ship, has addressed all the limitations of 3DS, and a serious competitor to all comers, not even considering the positive accolades a trueSpace gets. So, here we are at NAB '96, the make-or-break show for NewTek and LightWave. They must show a ship a multithreaded, shaded-preview version of LightWave which is fully OpenGL compliant, featuring more advanced spline modeling, IK and keyframe control of surfacing attributes. In addition, rendering time is going to have to go down significantly, if you believe the advanced reports from MAX. And that's just to stay level with the competition. Also, we are going to have to see progress from the 3rd party market. Not that it has to be equal to the amount Autodesk has, since they've had some time to develop that. But it has to be enough to show it is a growing, not declining market. If NewTek has to pay for 3rd party support, then that's what they have to do. Possibly more important than all of this, is that NewTek has to convey to the customer that their products are viable, and will continue. Because our wondering has turned to worry. And people don't buy products they're worried about. Especially at this critical juncture, where we will be offered a choice between programs. If offered, will we choose a $500 upgrade to 5.0, or a $1000 upgrade to MAX? Autodesk, by all accounts has responded to competition with one heck of a program. Certainly not the be-all-end-all, but a serious tool. Now, it is NewTek's turn to respond in kind. Will NewTek, with its problems of delivering on time, be left standing when everyone takes a seat? I hope not. And I didn't even get into the Toaster for Windows. It is going to be one heck of an interesting show. See you all there Monday. --Brian http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/ http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/ Article: 16304 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Is there an "Official" Web Site? Date: 7 Apr 1996 20:11:40 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 6 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k9ljs$e08@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <31680ccc.6776684@news.digex.net> Reply-To: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com >That should be www.newtek.com for the Newtek web site. DOH!!! Thanks. --Brian http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/ http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/ Article: 16305 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!ip113.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Help with output to VHS required... Date: 5 Apr 1996 21:55:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 37 Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: References: <4k3kov$dtl$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> X-Posted-By: ip113.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <4k3kov$dtl$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> James Osborne <100706.3126@CompuServe.COM> writes: >From: James Osborne <100706.3126@CompuServe.COM> >Subject: Help with output to VHS required... >Date: 5 Apr 1996 17:20:30 GMT >Hi! >I have just completed the scene file for a pretty cool >(BIG) animation (for my Demo Reel) but I now need some advice on >how best to go about transferring this (and future anims) to VHS >tape. I really need to keep the cost to a minimum (no surprise >there). >Anyhow I currently have a P120 with 32Mb, 1Gb IDE HD, and a >Stealth GT 2mb Vram card. I guess I will need a big, fast (scsi >AV?) HD and an output card of some kind. >Has anybody got any ideas. The Fast F60 MJPEG card sounds okay >but is this the only option? >Thanks in advance, >JAMES Get a used PAR. I don't know about the less expensive "consumer" oriented MJPEG devices, but a used PAR will allow you to get Beta SP quality output on many animations if you have one of the "FireBall" drives. The value to a PAR or similar device that isn't immediately apparent is how much better your animations are because you can make tests relatively painlessly. If you are really serious, you need something like this. My guess is that lesser quality units are too much of a dead end. You can do work and get paid for it with a PAR. Then you can buy that PVR and the LW upgrade that is rumored. Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Studio 522 Productions |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber http://www.studio522.com |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber Article: 16306 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!ip113.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Help: Sound and LW Output? How to Sync Audio and Anim? Date: 5 Apr 1996 22:03:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 45 Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: References: <4k0kt2$a3h@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> X-Posted-By: ip113.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <4k0kt2$a3h@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> mbc@po.cwru.edu (Michael B. Comet) writes: >From: mbc@po.cwru.edu (Michael B. Comet) >Subject: Help: Sound and LW Output? How to Sync Audio and Anim? >Date: 4 Apr 1996 14:04:18 GMT >Hi, > Does anyone know what is invloved with syncing audio, >voice, music, sound effects whatever with Lightwave Animations? >I currently use LW 4.0 Intel, and a DPS PAR board. I also have >an old Sounds Blaster PRO. I currently output from the PAR to >SVHS. > Is there some way to get the PAR board to sync with some >type of audio, perhaps WAV or VOC files? Does the Perception do >this? > Thanks a ton! > Mike Comet > comet@apk.net > mbc@po.cwru.edu >-- >| Michael B. Comet - mbc@po.cwru.edu Sell your PAR to the guy who posted about being on limited funds and needed to output to VHS. Then go buy a PVR. It will sync to .wav files. It is odd that it won't save the .wav synchronization in the .ply files, but it is mostly an inconvenience. What we do is capture the sound with a standard Sound Blaster type 16 bit audio card. We then display the .wav file and note the timing in 30 fps increments on a piece of note paper. Once you have done this, you can simply build your animation around the timing of the sound file. The PVR will make sure the .wav file starts on time. We have only used the PVR for synchronization that is less than 30 seconds. I don't know how the sync will hold up over time. Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Studio 522 Productions |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber http://www.studio522.com |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber Article: 16307 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!steph From: Steph Greenberg Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 5 Apr 1996 23:07:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010 Lines: 55 Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: <4k51m5$qtk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> X-Posted-By: steph@usr2.primenet.com Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14368 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16307 comp.graphics.animation:34022 Stranahan wrote: : As I have said before, I _love_ Lightwave, but MAX has some : awesome features (which will hopefully promote the same in Lightwave). : ----------------------------------------------------- : Well, MAX still isn't shipping, right? LightWave is rumoured to be : shipping 'soon'....so is it fair to say LW is playing 'catch-up' if they : ship first? Considering that RSN was practically coined to describe Newtek shipping dates (the original Toaster came out over a year after initially predicted, though it was significantly better than the initial product) and let's not forget announcement of availability of "The Screamer", PC Lightwave, etc. Rumored to be shipping "soon"? You don't get a much softer release date than that, and it sounds like a last ditch attempt to keep people from checking out MAX at NAB. I certainly hope Newtek is seriously researching the competition. Their interface and integration is definately behind the times, and the excellent work being done with Lightwave is more an indication of sheer determination by artists using it than by the excellence in design of the program. Like, why are layout and modeling still separate? Where are the NURBS? Where's the multi-target deformation, GL shading or equivalent *in the Layout* module, editing of slope with tangents in the animation editor, user definable hot keys, interactive lighting, expressions usable in Layout, integration with the renderer in Layout, etc? Is 5.0 going to go that far? MAX is in lotsa hands right now, I know quite a few people in Hollywood with it. I'll bet only a handful are on 5.0 beta, and then it goes into pre-release, the stage MAX is in now and has been for well over a month. I wish Newtek good luck, since I'd certainly go with a program equal to MAX at less than half the price. I'm just a little skeptical, and with damned good reason, of Newtek and their early product announcements. In any case, good luck with the CD-ROM. It looks really interesting. : Lee Stranahan : A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! : ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steph Greenberg "Whenever I truly think something can't be steph@primenet.com done, that is when I redouble my efforts to prove myself wrong." Copyright 1996. All Rights Reserved. Permission granted for non-commercial electronic republication only, such as Usenet and Email, and non-commercial educational purposes such as charge free WWW pages. Express permission is required for any other use. When in doubt, ask. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article: 16308 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: instntguts@aol.com (InstntGuts) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 7 Apr 1996 21:50:51 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 11 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k9rdr$g2q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4k9l7r$dsv@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: instntguts@aol.com (InstntGuts) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com <> Brian, Uh, no, it wasn't. 3D Studio MAX has been under development for 3 years, and has been coding for over 2 years -- long before NewTek announced LW for the PC. LW PC had absolutely nothing to do with Autodesk developing MAX as an NT application -- its development was already well under way. -- Jon Article: 16309 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!cats.ucsc.edu!adamchry From: adamchry@cats.ucsc.edu (Adam Ives Chrystie) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: New Features for Lightwave 5.0 Date: 8 Apr 1996 02:19:10 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4k9t2u$ns6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <4k8no9$kbj@orb.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) In <4k8no9$kbj@orb.direct.ca> kharmel@Direct.CA (Kurt Harmel) writes: >We know 5.0 will support open GL, but what else do we know? >Some one out there in the vastness of Lightwave land must have >some info on what else we can expect. A few hints would be nice! You will hear the wonderful sounds of silence until NAB probably. All zippers seem to be pretty well sealed. :) I think it is just wonderful that we do not know what to expect in __________. Kinda makes it all more interesting not knowing what to expect than waiting for what you hear about... Adam Chrystie adamchry@cats.ucsc.edu -- ---------------------------------- Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator Cinema/Video Major, Senior University Of California at Santa Cruz Article: 16310 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!cats.ucsc.edu!adamchry From: adamchry@cats.ucsc.edu (Adam Ives Chrystie) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 8 Apr 1996 02:28:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4k9tjr$nve@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <4k9l7r$dsv@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ese.ucsc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) It really is best to write about such topics after we see them :) Adam -- ---------------------------------- Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator Cinema/Video Major, Senior University Of California at Santa Cruz Article: 16311 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: robanims@aol.com (RobAnims) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Install Hware driver in NT4.0 Date: 7 Apr 1996 22:37:24 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 19 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4k9u54$h4d@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: robanims@aol.com (RobAnims) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I had the very same problem. and it is not in the manuals. Our setup is NT 3.51 on an Alpha but I assume NT3.51 on the Intel is the same. The Version 4.0 upgrade from our pre-release version on the Dec Alpha did not replace the modeler and Lightwave EXECUTE Files. We had to delete the old ones and replace with the updated ones on our Version 4.0 CD. We informed a Tech rep of Newtek of the problem back in January. Another problem might be the Sentinal Driver. Even though the Sentinal Driver shows up in your drivers pref window it can become corrupt. This happened to us and a simple call to Tech Newtek said to just to update the Sentinal Driver again. We did and walla...Working ever since. Hope this resolves your dilema. Cheers Article: 16312 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.bctel.net!nntp.pinc.com!usenet From: ics@pinc.com (Ivan Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: B5 spaceship design Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 20:33:58 GMT Organization: Softwords Research International Ltd. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3168260e.74703827@news.pinc.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: spider.pinc.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 On 5 Apr 96 23:17:28 PST, mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) wrote: >I've been reading all this stuff about everyone debating and complaining about >the way the spaceships look on B5. I got to say, that of all the demos that >you see everyone else making, I don't see how anyone of them can even make any >kind of remarks about it. Since NONE of them, "or at least most" of them can't >even come close to the quality on that program, or for that matter, any TV >space show. If you want to be blown away by a ship model take a look at: http://www.free.cts.com/sd/c/corvine/ Unfortunately it was done with 3D Studio (but that makes no difference. It's the artist that makes the difference) <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Ivan Sinclair - ics@pinc.com Softwords Research - http://vvv.com/ <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Article: 16313 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news3.digex.net!access1.digex.net!erniew From: Ernie Wright Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Image Sequences & Pyromania Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:08:25 -0400 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3167AA65.493E@aloha.net> <3167F584.773B@ECLECTIC-MEDIA.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: access1.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: erniew@access1.digex.net In-Reply-To: <3167F584.773B@ECLECTIC-MEDIA.COM> Karl Dittman wrote: > I seem to recall from the Pyromania CD that the image sequences are > numbered funky (i.e. they don't start at 001, instead it's something > like 1001. I may be somewhat off on the actual numbers, but the concept > you need to be aware of is that the image number has to correspond to > the frame number. Thus you must copy the images to your hard disk and > rename them to a nomenclature that Lightwave can comprehend. I don't know how the image sequences are named on the Pyromania CD, but if it's something like frame 1 pic1001.tga frame 2 pic1002.tga ... you should be able to use Frame Offset on the Images Panel to load them, rather than having to copy and rename them. An offset of 1000 will work in the above example. - Ernie Article: 16314 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news1.digex.net!news3.digex.net!access1.digex.net!erniew From: Ernie Wright Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Star Wars and LightWave Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:20:35 -0400 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <19960329.7A505D0.B8D9@bbs.newtek.com> <2744.6662T882T800@execpc.com> <4joi4l$9ec$1@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au> <5340.6665T635T2956@execpc.com> <4k7rei$btj@lori.albany.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: access1.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: erniew@access1.digex.net In-Reply-To: <4k7rei$btj@lori.albany.net> David Warner wrote: > WHAT?! No formula? Geez Ernie, I'm disappointed. =) Ha. Don't tempt me, sir. - Ernie Article: 16315 Path: news2.cais.com!mcbones From: djmccoy@pacificnet.net (Daniel J. McCoy) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: B5 spaceship design Date: Mon, 08 Apr 96 04:54:30 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: <4ka5vg$sdp@news2.cais.com> References: <3168260e.74703827@news.pinc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.101.13.90 X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 In article <3168260e.74703827@news.pinc.com>, ics@pinc.com (Ivan Sinclair) wrote: >On 5 Apr 96 23:17:28 PST, mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) >wrote: >>I've been reading all this stuff about everyone debating and complaining about >>the way the spaceships look on B5. I got to say, that of all the demos that >>you see everyone else making, I don't see how anyone of them can even make any >>kind of remarks about it. Since NONE of them, "or at least most" of them can't >>even come close to the quality on that program, or for that matter, any TV >>space show. > >If you want to be blown away by a ship model take a look at: > >http://www.free.cts.com/sd/c/corvine/ > >Unfortunately it was done with 3D Studio (but that makes no >difference. It's the artist that makes the difference) One point that may have been brought up already (having not followed this thread to any detail) is that while, yes, higher detailed models could be created, other matters may dictate the level of detail you put forth in an object. Things like budgets and render time for higher detailed objects all factor in. Take the above object for instance at the CTS site. How long did it take to render that object in just one frame? How long would it take to render this object in a longer animated sequence? Can it be done on time (ie: within a week's worth of time and heaven forbid the producer changes something on you). You get the picture... :) Take a look at the premier of B5 (hell, the first season). Then compare it to the second and third season. The CGI DID improve. Tools get better, artists perfect their talents and systems get faster (holy cow do they get faster!). This doesn't change no matter what software a person chooses. Have fun, Dan -- Daniel J. McCoy - djmccoy@pacificnet.net or dan@acti.com WWW - http://www.pacificnet.net/~djmccoy Article: 16316 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.ios.com!usenet From: David Forbus Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 8 Apr 1996 04:57:16 GMT Organization: ARARAT Productions Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4ka6bc$31h@news.ios.com> References: <4k9l7r$dsv@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4k9rdr$g2q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-28.ts-1.hou.idt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2 (Windows; U; 16bit) To: instntguts@aol.com instntguts@aol.com (InstntGuts) wrote: ><LightWave-killer, among other things.>> > >Brian, > >Uh, no, it wasn't. 3D Studio MAX has been under development for 3 years, >and has been coding for over 2 years -- long before NewTek announced LW >for the PC. LW PC had absolutely nothing to do with Autodesk developing >MAX as an NT application -- its development was already well under way. > >-- Jon I saw MAX demonstrated back in October. If what I saw had been under development for three years, then AutoDesk had been taking their time. Of course the development of MAX has been influenced by the presence of LightWave. AutoDesk would be foolish to do otherwise. DLF Article: 16317 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!agate!news.ossi.com!pagesat.net!cg57.esnet.com!torment!mad From: mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Is it true? Message-ID: Date: 7 Apr 96 22:13:21 PST Organization: Tierra-Miga BBS Lines: 17 Is it true? I so far am unable to find a way to mirror my surface maps on objects. I'm going to dig through my manuals and books again to see, but as far as I can tell, the only way to do this is to make your textures to have matching edges first in a paint program before you map them onto any object. And then I was reviewing the Ron Thorton video tape on textures and he said that whenever you are going to have a texture wrap around and meet itself, that you need to make sure that the edges are the same, so as to not leave a seam. Of course this all makes plenty of sence, but I would have thought that an awesome program like LW would have a mirroring setting like in Strata or for that matter, practically any other 3D program that I can think of. So, please if anyone knows of such a way to do this, "mirroring", of textures then could you let me know. It really sucks having to go and crop, clip, and paste all of everyone of my textures just to make them "appear" to be seamless........ TIA..............md :) Article: 16318 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.abest.com!usenet From: "Andrew S. Milkis" Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: FS: Lightwave 3D for SGI Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 01:57:02 -0400 Organization: Digital Euphoria Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3168AAAE.2CB5@tnp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tnp145.tnp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) For Sale: Lightwave 3D for Sgi. Lists for $2495, asking $1650. Please respond via email address below. Thanks! -Andrew Milkis andrewm@tnp.com www.aroundtheblock.com Article: 16319 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!usenet From: root@spacelink.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: LW4.0 wont save to AVI? Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 05:54:05 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4ka9mg$knn@newshub.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: phobos.spacelink.com I'm using LW4.0 on a Pentium machine with 32MB ram and 3 GB disk under Win95. I've created an animation sequence which I am trying to render out to an .AVI file. I've gone to the OPTIONS menu and "Add plug-ins" selection. There, I selected "hiip\hiipsave" and received a message that the plug-in's were successfully added. next, I go to the 'RECORD" menu and select "Save Animation", supply a filename and then select "HIip-avi16(.avi)" from the animation type selections. Next, I render. LW goes through the motions and actually renders my animation. HOWEVER, nothing is ever saved to disk.. anywhere. Any suggestions on why this doesn't work? Should this work? If not, what is the best way to generate an .AVI file of one's LW4.0 animations? Thanks for any suggestions, -Jim Article: 16320 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!rci From: rci@crl.com (Michael Powell) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Star Wars and Lightwave Date: 8 Apr 1996 06:07:07 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 48 Message-ID: <4kaaec$r7i@nntp.crl.com> References: <4jai9a$gq2@news.accessone.com> <315920BF.5C58@ix.netcom.com> <315AB69F.C20@erinet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl2.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Stuart Ferguson (shf@netcom.com) wrote: : Who could *forget* the rocket bus? It was hovering on jets, [snip] : The ladders, floors and obvious up-down orientation in parts of the : Discovery were all supposed to be consensual fictions to provide the : crew with an orderly model for how to move around in the ship in : zero-G. A bit like the file folders, trash cans, and paper documents : you find on a modern computer desktop, these are elements of familiar : environment transplanted in order to provide psychological footholds : in an unfamiliar environment. Today we know that seasoned spacemen : like Bowman and Poole would fly graceful, minimum energy trajectories : from room to room. They would be as uncomfortable trying to use a : ladder as an old Amiga hacker would be struggling with a Mac. : -- Nice to see someone else who knows the film well... I really can't count the times I've seen it. I ran into a *great* book that was published only within the last two years called 2001:filming the future by Piers Bizony (with forward by A.C. Clarke). It seems well researched, and there are some fantastic photos that I have not seen before of the spacecraft models under construction and some rare behind-the-scenes shots, drawings, etc. That so little material is available is a real tragedy. But to relate this to Star Wars and Lightwave... 2001 clearly took the first 'small step' toward dirty models... abandoning the aerodynamic 'bullet-shape' ships, and even providing very carefully weathered surfaces that are in many ways identical to the Star Wars look, only less severe. 2001: is an outstanding film for it's effects... not only holding up by today's standards, but quite frankly *rarely* surpassed by modern films. Kubrick intentionally stayed well within established effects techniques in most instances, avoiding 'pushing' the technology (you simply don't see spacecraft crossing over other spacraft or planets for example). One obvious exception was the slit-scan techniques that Trumbull developed for the journey beyond the infinite. Michael Powell Article: 16321 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: equinoxii@aol.com (Equinox II) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 8 Apr 1996 02:24:31 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 15 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kabev$lor@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4k9tjr$nve@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Reply-To: equinoxii@aol.com (Equinox II) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Well, I pretty much know what 5.0 is going to offer, except I don't know the price, or ship date, have heard from beta testers of MAX, and read all the lit that's currently out on both. I'm just letting NewTek know, again, what they need to be doing for the show, since it's rather pointless to tell them afterward. Wouldn't you agree? Sometimes corporations (the one I work for being no exception) need to be reminded of what the goals are, and what needs to be done. And don't worry, once I see NAB, I'll have a lot more to say. I just want to start it with "They sure did the right thing this time!" --Brian Equinox Images, Inc. http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/ Article: 16322 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!iol!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!rci From: rci@crl.com (Michael Powell) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Modeler stops to work !!! Date: 8 Apr 1996 06:16:48 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kab0g$r7i@nntp.crl.com> References: <4k9i2p$4af@bagan.srce.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl2.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Dinko Cepak (dinko.cepak@zg.tel.hr) wrote: : Hi there !!! : : Something strage just happend to me ......... : Today i have started my machine and Modeler won`t work any more : Everything seams O.K. yesterday but today when i started Modeler it : appears only for few moments and than pops out ( like there is no : dongle ) but Lightwave works good........Any suggestions or help : on this.............I have tried to reinstall software but that did : not help ..........Than i have moved all to second machine and same : there.......All that is hapening on P5-133 under NT 3.51.......(also : same thing with Modeler rev. 4.0b , 4.0c and 4.0d)............. : One more thing....who can i conntact if my dongle get screwd (but if : that is truth how can Lightwawe and screamernet still work ???) Your dongle has, in all likelyhood, died. If you have Lightwave (layout) 4.0 rev B, try firing it up... if it does no work either, then it's dongle-related. New-Tek can fix your dongle with a very quick turn-around time. Michael Powell Article: 16323 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!rci From: rci@crl.com (Michael Powell) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Star Wars and Lightwave Date: 8 Apr 1996 06:21:09 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4kab8l$r7i@nntp.crl.com> References: <4jai9a$gq2@news.accessone.com> <315920BF.5C58@ix.netcom.com> <315AB69F.C20@erinet.com> <315DECA2.281A@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl2.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] BTW, re: Star Wars, I just put up a cool avi of the Rebel Blocade Runner (the Corvette) doing a flyby... It's available on the Render-Cam web site: http://www.crl.com/~rci/rcigal.htm Michael Powell Article: 16324 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news From: Jeff Jasper Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 03:00:37 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3168B995.2CB6@osu.edu> References: <4k9l7r$dsv@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4k9rdr$g2q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4ka6bc$31h@news.ios.com> Reply-To: jasper.7@osu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: slip5-9.acs.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0B2 (WinNT; I) > >Uh, no, it wasn't. 3D Studio MAX has been under development for 3 years, > >and has been coding for over 2 years -- long before NewTek announced LW > >for the PC. LW PC had absolutely nothing to do with Autodesk developing > >MAX as an NT application -- its development was already well under way. > I saw MAX demonstrated back in October. If what I saw had been under > development for three years, then AutoDesk had been taking their time. > Of course the development of MAX has been influenced by the presence of > LightWave. AutoDesk would be foolish to do otherwise. No he was right, they started work on MAX right after they released version 2 of 3D Studio. That is direct from Gary Yost. I think most of MAX's development ideas came from SGI programs. Now that LW is on the PC, I'm sure Autodesk has it's watchfull eye on it, but back when MAX was being developed there wasn't any move to put LW on the PC. Jeff Article: 16325 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: equinoxii@aol.com (Equinox II) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 8 Apr 1996 02:55:41 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 33 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kad9d$m5j@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4ka6bc$31h@news.ios.com> Reply-To: equinoxii@aol.com (Equinox II) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com In a message dated 96-04-07 21:50:56 EDT, you write: > LW PC had absolutely nothing to do with Autodesk developing >MAX as an NT application -- its development was already well under way. Absolutly nothing? That's rather hard to believe. "Under Development" is pretty meaningless, since saying "we should make this program" can mean under development to companies. Even if they've been coding for *two years* on version one, multi-platform LightWave was *announced* July 94, but not exactly any secret before then either. Serious talk was around as early as NAB. So they're about as old as each other, except LightWave actually shipped first. LightWave multi-platform was expected to ship January 95. Which would have caught many companies flat-footed. Except they didn't, and everyone got a reprieve to make sure to properly retaliate against the newcomer. And you can't tell me that the product marketing pushes, and their timing against NewTek annoucements had nothing to do with LightWave. If they didn't then Autodesk is stupider, yet luckier than I imagined. Autodesk was considered the only real game in that price range until LightWave was announced. And whether the comparision was accurate or not, you can't tell me they didn't feel some heat, and respond to it, as any company with half a brain cell would do. What I thought was the funniest thing, in the "coincidence or not, you decide" column, was that Strata cut the price on Studio Pro for the Mac in half, to the range of LightWave, the same time multi-platform was announced. And we'll probably never see a Mac OS version of LightWave. --Brian Equinox Images, Inc. http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/ Article: 16326 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!iol!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 8 Apr 1996 03:34:48 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 19 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kafio$md1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kad9d$m5j@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com What I thought was the funniest thing, in the "coincidence or not, you decide" column, was that Strata cut the price on Studio Pro for the Mac in half, to the range of LightWave, the same time multi-platform was announced. And we'll probably never see a Mac OS version of LightWave. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- It looks to me like NewTek MAY be announcing a Mac (& Sun) version at this NAB.... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16327 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gkeenan818@aol.com (GKeenan818) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Best of LightWave Pro Date: 8 Apr 1996 03:57:26 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 21 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kagt6$mnm@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4im2l4$3j0@news.voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader I'm sorry of this question has appeared on here recently, but here goes anyway... Has anyone received their copy of The Best Of LightWave Pro yet? I ordered four copies, and expected to get them at the end of December. My Visa card got charged, but nothing appeared through the post. A quick telephone call to AMG to find out what was going on and I was told that the printers had made a mistake (or something) and the book would be out around the end of March.... It's April and I'm starting to think that AMG has done the old dodge of gorilla marketing...... Publish the goodies and see what the response is, and if it's good create the product..... If it's bad, what the hell, you have managed to earn some interest on the money received and Joe Bloggs gets his cash back in the end. Any HARD FACTS on this matter would be appreciated. Article: 16328 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newshub1.wanet.net!ucsnews!newshub.sdsu.edu!soma From: lacey@rohan.sdsu.edu (Mitch Lacey) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95,alt.2600,alt.26 Subject: Re: HOW TO DO A BATCH HTTP FILE DOWNLOAD hybridv=putz Date: Sun, 07 Apr 96 06:18:33 GMT Organization: SDSU Lines: 49 Message-ID: <4k7mhu$h1s@hole.sdsu.edu> References: <315df4e7.30083078@nntp.loop.com> <31601c49.6539557@news.compuserve.com> <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com> <3161a179.438764@news.earthlink.net> <4k5bvp$d28@usenet7.interramp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: annex2p19.sdsu.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34027 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16328 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:13379 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14382 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x:1379 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95:7651 alt.26 ok you two, i dont mean to butt in, but.....Win95 can do partial multitasking. it depends on whether or not the program in question is using the win32 or the win16 resource heaps. if you are running a 16 bit app in the so called 32 bit os of win95, you're still running the win16 subsystem. win16 code is non-reentrant, meaning the program you are running cannot be interrupted in teh middle of its processing. if two programs run non reentrant code at the same time, the win16 subsystem can collapse. since win95 CAN run cheesy win3.x programs, it is, theoretically, acting just like win3.x. now, win32 code will use the 32bit dll files instead of the 16bit user and gdi .exe's. win32 proggies can have processor time/os time shared, streamlining each application being ran at any given time. personally, i dont like windows95, but some ppl do. use what you like. if you want to use what ppl tell you to use, and you just have to have a microsoft product running your computer, get NT. otherwise get linux, its much more fun. Mitch In article <4k5bvp$d28@usenet7.interramp.com>, boxholder@anon.pissy.fi wrote: >>>Win95 does not do real multitasking Win95 is pure SHIT ! >>>You should use a real multitasking environment instead ! >>>And if your on a PC the only thing for YOU is OS/2 !! >>>THE DARK SITE - Psycho's Hompepage... >>shut the FUCK up loser... Win95 Does better multitasking then os/2 by >>far obviously you have either a shitty computer or you just suck... >>i can run 3d studio, 2 versions of netscape, 2 versions of agent, and >>adobe premiere 4.2 all at the same time with no noticble slow down or >>crashes... therefor you dont know how to fucking setup your computer >>or your just a dumbass... >>HybridV >NO, I say again, NO WAY does WIN95 do "Multi-Tasking"! There is but >one processor and it is working on one program at a time! >You may seem to be running a bunch of programs, but all you are doing >is splitting the clock cycles. Granted the Pxxx chip does the execute >shuffel rather fast so one would hardly notice the it is only working >on one executaable program at a time. BUT, it is doing just that "one >at a time". Unless you have a multi processor (eg a dual or quad >pentium) you are not and never will do multi tasking. It just aint >possible for one processor to think about two programs at once. blah blah blah.... Article: 16329 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.islandnet.com!news.islandnet.com!not-for-mail From: dretch@islandnet.com (Christopher Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: NewTek@NAB Date: 8 Apr 1996 01:49:30 -0700 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4kajuq$nhf@islandnet.com> References: <4k7rbf$rmr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: islandnet.com In a message dated 7 Apr 1996 03:37:19 tpsm99@aol.com writes: T> Be there or be a four sided 3D object of rectangular shape! ;) A four sided 3D object would be a pyramid structure. How you'd make one rectangular beats me... Wouldn't a "square" be 2D and a "cube" 3D? Can't even throw a good slur, much less get my subscription to my door... Netherless, I won't be there. Somebody post the juicy tidbits from the site huh? T> PS Watch VTU and LIGHTWAVEPRO for _all_ the details!" Well, I'll read them anyway... Christopher ********************************************** Primordial * Christopher Stewart dretch@islandnet.com * Graphics Soup * http://primordial.victoria.bc.ca/ * WWW Animation * Home of the Lightwave 3D Search Engine * Training ********************************************** * Offline Orbit 0.73c * Article: 16330 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.islandnet.com!news.islandnet.com!not-for-mail From: dretch@islandnet.com (Christopher Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: volumetric shadows Date: 8 Apr 1996 01:49:37 -0700 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4kajv1$ni8@islandnet.com> References: <4k4j3q$nu0@bolivia.it.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: islandnet.com In a message dated Sat, 06 Apr 1996 01: saddoris@earthlink.net writes: S> I just saw the ad for 3dsMAX in New Media. Is there a way to do S> volumetric lighting/shadows in LW4? (Other than creating a bunch of S> opacity mapped cones) Grrr... no. I just saw an ElectricImage rendered game test with TONS of volumetrics. He just pressed buttons.... Grrr... Christopher ********************************************** Primordial * Christopher Stewart dretch@islandnet.com * Graphics Soup * http://primordial.victoria.bc.ca/ * WWW Animation * Home of the Lightwave 3D Search Engine * Training ********************************************** * Offline Orbit 0.73c * Article: 16331 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.islandnet.com!news.islandnet.com!not-for-mail From: dretch@islandnet.com (Christopher Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: vrml... Date: 8 Apr 1996 01:49:43 -0700 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada Lines: 21 Message-ID: <4kajv7$nir@islandnet.com> References: <828808866.25604@artworks.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: islandnet.com In a message dated Sat, 06 Apr 1996 16: ade@artworks.demon.co.uk writes: A> any-one using LW4 for vrml creation,and have anytips? A> thanks in advance, "http://www.islandnet.com/~dretch/text/lightwavevrml.html" Christopher ********************************************** Primordial * Christopher Stewart dretch@islandnet.com * Graphics Soup * http://primordial.victoria.bc.ca/ * WWW Animation * Home of the Lightwave 3D Search Engine * Training ********************************************** * Offline Orbit 0.73c * Article: 16332 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.islandnet.com!news.islandnet.com!not-for-mail From: dretch@islandnet.com (Christopher Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Writing logo clip question Date: 8 Apr 1996 01:49:51 -0700 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4kajvf$nja@islandnet.com> References: <4k6dtv$l5e@epx.cis.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: islandnet.com In a message dated 6 Apr 1996 18:42:07 zygm0001@gold.tc.umn.edu writes: Z> Im sure this has been answered here many times before, but would someone Z> be kind enough to forward me some tips on making the process of an Z> instrument writing/carving a logo into a material. I know there is Z> probably a clip map involved in making the transition between the blank Z> and the booleaned (for carved) surfaces that follows the instrument Z> doing the writing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Check out the page in the tagline below. Just do a keyword search for "text". Christopher ********************************************** Primordial * Christopher Stewart dretch@islandnet.com * Graphics Soup * http://www.islandnet.com/~dretch/ * WWW Animation * Home of the Lightwave 3D Search Engine * Training ********************************************** * Offline Orbit 0.73c * Article: 16333 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!psuvax1!news.math.psu.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.nd.edu!news.bsu.edu!iasmh.bsu.edu!darius From: Shadowbird Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: B5 spaceship design Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 02:33:37 -0500 Organization: Ball State University Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <4jvg0o$5uq@news.accessone.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: iasmh.bsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > I asked our B5 guru what ships have been seen in atmosphere. Not many, it > seems, and most of them are too alien to address my argument. The only true > atmospheric ship I've seen was the ship that takes them down to the planet the > B5 station is orbiting. Unfortunately, I can't remember if I didn't like the > way it looked. Check out this week's episode, with the new version of the Starfury, the "Thunderbolt." It's the bomber you'll see bombing the Mars colonies. Looked really nice... +---------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | And though the bird may seem serene | |>arius Wei (Shadowbird) | | With eyes aflame he can dispell | darius@iasmh.bsu.edu | | Light that all the world has seen | http://www.iasmh.bsu.edu/~darius | | For no one knows the depth of hell... | IASMH Computer Lab Technician | | | IASMH Solar Car Team | | from 'Nighthawk' | Founder, Arcanum Magicae | | ---Dwei 1/4/95 | | +---------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ Article: 16334 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!svc.portal.com!shell.portal.com!jobe.shell.portal.com!drakon From: drakon@shell.portal.com (Harry Benjamin Gibson) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: vrml... Date: 8 Apr 1996 13:08:16 GMT Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4kb340$ni7@news1.shell> References: <828808866.25604@artworks.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Ade Rutter (ade@artworks.demon.co.uk) wrote: : any-one using LW4 for vrml creation,and have anytips? : There are some limitations to VRML that you should be aware of. First and formost is that VRML does not like concave polygons. If you need a flat surface that has a dip in it, be sure to break it such that ther are no concave polyugons. Second VRMl is limited to flat mapping at this time. Not a biggie, but should be remembered. Ben Gibson Dd d thanks in advance, Article: 16335 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!wang!uunet!in2.uu.net!bull.hkstar.net!usenet From: chiyung@hkstar.com (Aldoliu Chan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Is any software that support scripts like function? Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 12:08:59 GMT Organization: Hong Kong Star Internet LTD. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4kb36l$74m@bull.hkstar.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pnstar201.hkstar.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Hi, I am now looking for a graphics software that support scripts like function that can let user change the options as they want. Because I want to put some products into computer graphics and let our customers to change its color, style and the combination. No matter it is support 3D or not. If possible please reply by email. Thanks in advance. Aldoliu Chan Article: 16336 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!panix!not-for-mail From: vector@panix.com (Charles Sung Lee) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Points to Polys for Alpha Date: 8 Apr 1996 09:19:27 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4kb3ov$6hu@panix3.panix.com> References: <31680C65.6E76@erinet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Andrew Hofman (andyh@erinet.com) wrote: : Has the Points to Polys macro been ported to Alpha? I think it came with my Alpha final CD (sounds odd :). It won't be found under the Objects/Custom menu, you'll find it under the Tools/Custom menu once you install it. (I can't remember if I d/led it from an ftp site or it came with the final 4.0... sorry.) But rest assured, it definitely exists on the Alpha. I just used it 20 seconds ago :) o===============================o=======================================o |: _ _ _ _ :| Charles Lee, Animator In Chief | |:. \\// \\// .:| vector@panix.com | |:::...\/ ector \/ isions...:::| Tel: (212)684-5888 Fax: (212)684-7802 | o-------------------------------o WWW page: http://www.panix.com/~vector| | A Lightwave 3D Rendering Farm | The Unofficial Beretta 92FS page | o===============================o=======================================o Article: 16337 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!xs4all!mail From: RM@WWE.easynet.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LWO format Date: 8 Apr 1996 15:05:10 +0200 Organization: Hack-Tic International, Inc. Lines: 28 Sender: daemon@utopia.hacktic.nl Message-ID: <199604081305.PAA23874@utopia.hacktic.nl> Reply-To: an521236@anon.penet.fi NNTP-Posting-Host: utopia.hacktic.nl X-To: mail2news@utopia.hacktic.nl Comments: Hack-Tic may or may not approve of the content of this posting Comments: Please report misuse of this automated remailing service to Comments: X-Mail2News-Complaints-To: postmaster@utopia.hacktic.nl In article <>, Ernie Wright (erniew@access.digex.net) writes: >Omar Eljumaily wrote: > >> Anybody know if there's a subtle difference in the way LW 4.0 >> scene layout and LW modeler read LWO files? Our product needs to write >> to LWO format and our objects read corerectly in the scene builder, but >> I get a error from the modeler. > I've noticed something like this when patch modelling -- I think it's because I've got point order messed up or something, but a model that looks fine to Modeller and Powerview connects points/creates polys totally differently in Layout -- this new configuration then appears when loaded in Modeller too. It reminds me of the exploding vertices problem with some 3DS cracks and had me worried about my exe (which should be legal AFAIK). This has happened to all my efforts at complicated patching so far. Simple stuff works fine. >You have an error in your files, then. Modeler writes the SRFS chunk >before the PNTS chunk, and Layout does it the other way around, but >there's no semantic difference, and each (obviously) reads the other's >files. Article: 16338 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!ur002968 From: imagine@h130.aone.net.au (Kevin Gleeson) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW and Edge3D Date: Mon, 08 Apr 96 01:39:54 GMT Organization: Imagine It Lines: 33 Message-ID: <4k9qlf$3oo@news.mel.aone.net.au> References: <31594F5A.D82@xs4all.nl> <4k7fbv$nsi@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3167B7BD.17BD@xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: d11-1.cpe.hobart.aone.net.au X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 In article <3167B7BD.17BD@xs4all.nl>, The Hitchhiker wrote: >ChipDaddy wrote: >> >> What is "Edge3D"? >> Thanks > >The Edge3D is an Windows95 2D-3D accelerator. It supports every >Microsoft DirectX API, (Direct3D verry soon). It can do realtime 3d >rendering,(when the software supports it)! >It's a giant in chains. When Microsoft releases Direct3D it will be >unchained and then the result will be unbelievable!! > >On my page are some link to other Edge info, check it out.... > ____ __ __ ___ ____ __ __ ___ > / / |/ \/ \/ _/ GreetZzzz from Rob Koopman / / |/ \/ \/ _/ > _/ / ^ | ^ / ^ / _/ roko@xs4all.nl _/ / ^ | ^ / ^ / _/ > /__/_/|_|/\_\/\_\__/ http://www.xs4all.nl/~roko /__/_/|_|/\_\/\_\__/ Will it support OpenGL? I believe it doesn't at the moment and as OpenGL seems to be where LW5 will be heading it might not be much use to us here. Cheers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kevin Gleeson Imagine It 3D animation and graphics Hobart Tasmania Australia The Librarian Rules! - OOOK! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Article: 16339 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!po.cwru.edu!mbc From: mbc@po.cwru.edu (Michael B. Comet) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Help: Sound and LW Output? How to Sync Audio and Anim? Date: 8 Apr 1996 14:05:48 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4kb6fs$cqf@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <4k0kt2$a3h@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> <4k2emt$737@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sushi.ins.cwru.edu X-Newsreader: CWRU GnomeNews for Windows In a previous article billhrgtn@aol.com (Bill Hrgtn) said: > Use the PAR VCR Windows player (not the main program) to sync audio with > animation files. Look under the Configure menu for "Device". Set your > sound association file and any off sync neccessary, and then save as a > project. Is there a PAR windows player? I am running Win95 with the DOS PAR software right now. I was under the impression there was no Win95 PAR software. Maybe it would work under 3.1/NT ? mbc -- | Michael B. Comet - mbc@po.cwru.edu | http://inswww.ins.cwru.edu/php/comet/ | LW FAQ, 3D Graphics & Animation and more! Article: 16340 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!c-cg.demon.co.uk From: Carousel Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Hello Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 13:03:08 GMT Organization: Carousel Computer Graphics Lines: 26 Message-ID: <223994226wnr@c-cg.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: presents@c-cg.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-cg.demon.co.uk X-Broken-Date: Monday, Apr 08, 1996 13.03.08 X-Newsreader: Newswin Alpha 0.7 X-Mail2News-Path: relay-4.mail.demon.net!post.demon.co.uk!c-cg.demon.co.uk Hello to all you lightwaves people out there! Ive got 3DS (please dont laught) ive tried and tried with newtek to get an eval copy of lightwave for PC but i cant get one. I want to know if there is anyone out there that could lend be lightwave or sell me lightwave for the PC. PS. Is it dongalised ???? Please help!!!! email russell@c-cg.demon.co.uk Thankyou -- Carousel Computer Graphics 56A Palmerston Place EDINBURGH EH12 5AY 0131 539 7399 http://www.carousel-c-g.co.uk Article: 16341 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!agate!news.ossi.com!pagesat.net!origin.ea.com!newsmaster From: Bryan Pritchard Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: (no subject) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 10:23:40 -0500 Organization: Origin Systems Lines: 3 Message-ID: <31692F7C.7B45@origin.ea.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bpritchard.origin.ea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) I would have to disagree. The 3DS engine renders a little plasticy.. but I think that that is just a problem with the users. I mean I've been able to do animations in 3DS and have people actually think they were done in Alias. You see with 3DS you just have to know more about mapping. That is the key to removing the apparent plastic look to your scenes. Article: 16342 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!homer.alpha.net!usenet From: syndesis@inc.net (John Foust) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 8 Apr 1996 15:46:03 GMT Organization: Syndesis Corporation Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4kbcbr$5qi@homer.alpha.net> References: <151405@cup.portal.com> <4k3n0i$hfh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s27c.globaldialog.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article <4k3n0i$hfh@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, stranahan@aol.com says... > >The PC Toaster was a 'smoking mirrors' product, as I've mentioned before. >I don't think 'Phoenix' will ever ship - it just doesn't make any sense >with the advent of DVC camcorders and better quality non-linear systems >that are cheaper. That's "smoke and mirrors." And I wrote the software for the PC Toaster in Visual BASIC, connecting an Amiga Toaster under the table to a PC via the serial port, sending ARexx commands from the PC when you clicked its "croutons" and it won one of those crystal awards from COMDEX, as the "best new product" or something like that. It's in the NewTek museum. - John Article: 16343 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!homer.alpha.net!usenet From: syndesis@inc.net (John Foust) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 8 Apr 1996 15:50:50 GMT Organization: Syndesis Corporation Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4kbckq$5qi@homer.alpha.net> References: <4k4ohd$sgs@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s27c.globaldialog.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14386 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16343 comp.graphics.animation:34031 In article <4k4ohd$sgs@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, stranahan@aol.com says... > >So - will MAX have a competitive upgrade offer? >------------------------- > >Good question. As much as NewTek's lack of marketing acumen bugs me, >Autodesk has about maybe .2 more of a clue. At a lower price point, MAX >could have OWNED the market - LW didn't take advantage of the window to >capture 3DS seats, and SoftImage is great, but pricey. If you already own 3DS for DOS, I believe the upgrade price is $495. > At around $1000 my curiousity dies altogether. Why, because you think you couldn't use it to make $1,000 as a return on your investment? I'm sure some people will buy it as an insurance policy, just to "know" Max. Chance favors the prepared mind. - John Foust Article: 16344 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 8 Apr 1996 12:28:10 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 17 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kbeqq$scb@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kbcbr$5qi@homer.alpha.net> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com That's "smoke and mirrors." And I wrote the software for the PC Toaster in Visual BASIC, connecting an Amiga Toaster under the table to a PC via the serial port, sending ARexx commands from the PC when you clicked its "croutons" and it won one of those crystal awards from COMDEX, as the "best new product" or something like that. It's in the NewTek museum. _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16345 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 8 Apr 1996 12:28:54 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 16 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kbes6$sco@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kbcbr$5qi@homer.alpha.net> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com That's "smoke and mirrors." --------------------- I know it's supposed to be 'smoke and mirrors', but the NewTek pronunciation seems to be 'smoking mirrors'. Well, Brad Carvey's, at least.... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16346 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!pipeline!not-for-mail From: justin@nyc.pipeline.com (Michael Justin Austin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, Subject: Re: LW and Edge3D Date: 8 Apr 1996 11:50:49 -0400 Organization: Pipeline Lines: 26 Message-ID: <4kbckp$ktn@pipe11.nyc.pipeline.com> References: <3167B7BD.17BD@xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: pipe11.nyc.pipeline.com X-PipeUser: justin X-PipeHub: nyc.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (Michael Austin) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 On Apr 07, 1996 14:40:29 in article , 'The Hitchhiker ' wrote: >ChipDaddy wrote: >> >> What is "Edge3D"? >> Thanks > >The Edge3D is an Windows95 2D-3D accelerator. It supports every >Microsoft DirectX API, (Direct3D verry soon). It can do realtime 3d >rendering,(when the software supports it)! >It's a giant in chains. When Microsoft releases Direct3D it will be >unchained and then the result will be unbelievable!! > Why is this better than open gl? whats the difference? real time ray tracing? or what? Because if it is not real time ray tracing then its just a toy :-) regards Article: 16347 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news1.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!alpha1.chapman.edu!ts1p11s42.chapman.edu!zimmerma From: zimmerma@chapman.edu (Dan Zimmerman) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Best Setup for PVR? Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 06:11:03 Organization: EuroTech Productions Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <313EA8D9.1FA2@ic.net> <31585e21.72896229@netnews.voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1p11s42.chapman.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] In article <31585e21.72896229@netnews.voicenet.com> marlon@voicenet.com (Marlon Beltz) writes: >From: marlon@voicenet.com (Marlon Beltz) >Subject: Re: Best Setup for PVR? >Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:30:53 GMT >> >I'm using Speed Razor on an Alpha and I've found at least 5 major >bugs, and I get crashs all over the place. I have not had a chance >yet to evaluate Premiere 4.2 for NT but I loved Premiere 4.0a. Never >had any problems. Does anybody work with Premiere 4.2 for NT? Is it out yet? Dan Zimmerman Article: 16348 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news1.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!alpha1.chapman.edu!ts1p11s42.chapman.edu!zimmerma From: zimmerma@chapman.edu (Dan Zimmerman) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: 95 InterFace for NT ! Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 06:12:37 Organization: EuroTech Productions Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <4im2l4$3j0@news.voicenet.com> <31511499.1D91@xs4all.nl> <4ircah$5el@irk.zetnet.co.uk> <3158CD73.44E2@cyberportal.net> <3159CC0F.739A@cats.ucsc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1p11s42.chapman.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] In article <3159CC0F.739A@cats.ucsc.edu> Adam Chrystie writes: >From: Adam Chrystie >Subject: Re: 95 InterFace for NT ! >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:15:27 +0000 >Actually, i remember john saying IT did not slow down >rendering..I have not noticed ANY slowdown in my render >speeds. I've been using the 95 shell for months now. >Adam Chrystie >www2.ucsc.edu/people/adamchry Somebody here posted that everything works fine under the new shell but the Perception software. I have the same problem/experience. Does anybody have a workaround (other than using both versions)? Dan Zimmerman Article: 16349 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news1.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!alpha1.chapman.edu!ts1p11s42.chapman.edu!zimmerma From: zimmerma@chapman.edu (Dan Zimmerman) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: 95 InterFace for NT ! (NT4 kicks bottom) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 07:52:26 Organization: EuroTech Productions Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <3158CD73.44E2@cyberportal.net> <4jctqq$61l@news.paonline.com> <4jej2a$dom@voyager.iii.org.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1p11s42.chapman.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] In article <4jej2a$dom@voyager.iii.org.tw> dan@acti.com (Daniel J. McCoy) writes: >From: dan@acti.com (Daniel J. McCoy) >Subject: Re: 95 InterFace for NT ! (NT4 kicks bottom) >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 17:54:54 GMT >I've got a P133 with a Perception card running NT 4.0 beta 1. The only thing >I can't do is create new projects within the PVR software itself nor can I >render directly to it. But it plays back just fine. :) How do you open files in the PVR under the new shell? I can't open the file requester at all. Anybody else experiencing that? dan Article: 16350 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!zombie.ncsc.mil!admaix.sunydutchess.edu!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!mcohen From: mcohen@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mark A Cohen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Where is the FTP site? Date: 8 Apr 1996 17:05:48 GMT Organization: UB Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4kbh1c$bdf@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu NNTP-Posting-User: mcohen X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Has anyone had problems getting to Newtek's FTP site? Is it still ftp.newtek.com? Is there anywhere else that I can download Rev. C for Intel? Thanks much, Mark Article: 16351 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 8 Apr 1996 13:12:08 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 29 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kbhd8$t7e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kbes6$sco@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Somehow, my response got screwed up... John Foust wrote... ------------------- That's "smoke and mirrors." And I wrote the software for the PC Toaster in Visual BASIC, connecting an Amiga Toaster under the table to a PC via the serial port, sending ARexx commands from the PC when you clicked its "croutons" and it won one of those crystal awards from COMDEX, as the "best new product" or something like that. It's in the NewTek museum. ------------------ This is (honestly) the first I've heard of this. NewTek has been accused of doing this sort of thing before - I've had people SWEAR the original Flyer demo wasn't real, but I KNOW it was. If it is true that the PC Toaster demo was a -complete- sham - and it sounds like it is, considering the source....very very disturbing. _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16352 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!not-for-mail From: jja_che@alcor.concordia.ca (Andy Chen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Now I'm confused... LIGHTWAVE 4.0 or 3D MAX? Date: 8 Apr 1996 17:30:08 GMT Organization: Concordia University Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4kbif0$55q@newsflash.concordia.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: alcor.concordia.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 NNTP-Posting-User: jja_che X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 I posted a while a back for a home animation studio hardware setup. The software of choice is Lightwave 4.0 (Intel version). BUT now with all the big yahoo.. I am getting a bit mixed up. I haven't actually used Lightwave (Amiga or PC) at all, but see how some people handled it with ease. I take it as being a good animation program because of its results for TV shows like B5, ST:Voyager, etc... But how does it handles? I have used 3DS for quite sometime and gotten used to its rendering systems and methods, BUT I didn't like its in capablility to do good lighting effects, raytracing, and texture maping. I tried Calagari (a TINY bit) and didn't like the univeral 3D positioning of items and stuff (get really confusing with various planes, etc). I am now going on the fact that "professionals" use other programs like Lightwave, Alias and SoftImage for special effects in movies and stuff and thereby those *should* be the better ones in comparison to 3DS or Caligari. Lightwave is used a lot for TV special effects and stuff (in comparison to 3DS), but 3DS is used probrably more for CAD design and stuff. Boy I am getting myself more confused.... please help clear it up for me. Is Lightwave 4.0 that easy to use?(in comparison to 3DS) Don't want to blow all my money away on something that I can't use. Argh, and would 3DS MAX work on the hardware configuration that I posted before? (Perception card, Matrox vid card, NT O/S, 64 MB RAM, P166?) Thanks for any reply... Andy Chen -- =----------------------------------------------------------------------------= Andy Chen (jja_che@alcor.concordia.ca) COMPUSERVE:103651.3174@compuserve.com Homepage:(http://alcor.concordia.ca/~jja_che) for SW:CCG, MT:G, WC2,and DOOM Co-Editor of the Nut & Bolt (The Official Newsletter of the ECA) Concordia University, Montreal CANADA =----------------------------------------------------------------------------= Article: 16353 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!Utrecht.NL.net!rubens.telebyte.nl!news From: Dennis van Orsouw Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Not enough memory for RGB buffs? Date: 8 Apr 1996 16:58:03 GMT Organization: Telebyte Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4kbgir$3qi@rubens.telebyte.nl> References: <4k70qk$dek@daily-planet.execpc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: db-0-21.telebyte.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) Maybe you can try to lower your undo-levels. I had the same experience with the message "Internal Buffers too small" so i tought, there's no more mem left. But lowering the undo-levels solved the problem. Greetinx Dennis Article: 16354 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!EU.net!sun4nl!Utrecht.NL.net!rubens.telebyte.nl!news From: Dennis van Orsouw Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW4.0 wont save to AVI? Date: 8 Apr 1996 17:05:10 GMT Organization: Telebyte Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4kbh06$3qi@rubens.telebyte.nl> References: <4ka9mg$knn@newshub.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: db-0-21.telebyte.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) You'd better try to install AVI32.DLL in the windows\system directory and select AVI32 to save your animation. I had the same problem but Lightwave does not save in AVI16 format. Greetz from Falcore & Vartex. From Holland. Come and see our pages at http://www.telebyte.nl/~falcore/home.htm or http://www.telebyte.nl/~vartex/home.htm Article: 16355 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!EU.net!sun4nl!Utrecht.NL.net!rubens.telebyte.nl!news From: Dennis van Orsouw Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Newtek FTP-Site trouble Date: 8 Apr 1996 17:09:31 GMT Organization: Telebyte Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4kbh8b$3qi@rubens.telebyte.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: db-0-21.telebyte.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) I'm trying to get contact to Newtek's FTP-site for a few weeks now, but i can't get a connection... HELP! PS. One day i was lucky and got in (5 minutes) Article: 16356 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!news.mr.net!scream.ing.com!cyberoptics.com!usenet From: Nate Hayes Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: WANTED: LW 4.0 TRADE Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 13:22:15 -0500 Organization: CyberOptics Corp. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <31695957.4EEA@cyberoptics.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vidhound.cyberoptics.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Hi Folks, I'm wondering if anyone with a version of LightWave 4.0 Intel would consider a trade for one or many of the following software packages (heck, I'll even trade you ALL of them for LW 4.0): Adobe Premiere 4.0a (still shrinkwrapped) Caligari trueSpace 2.0 Software Audio Workshop multitrack sound editor (shrinkwrapped) Martin Hash's 3D Animation 3.18 Microsoft Visual C++ 2.0 SimCity 2000 for Win95 CD-ROM All software comes with license and is fully upgradable. I also have a 1 GIG Conner Fast SCSI-2 hard-drive (CFP1060S) I'd consider in a trade of some sort. If interested, please e-mail me at nhayes@cyberoptics.com (where I check e-mail 3-4 times a day). Thanks! Nate hayes Article: 16357 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!lerc.nasa.gov!gregkimnach-nov.lerc.nasa.gov!Kimnach From: Kimnach@popserve.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg L. Kimnach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,rec.video.desktop,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: framestore/cg troubles on toaster Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:58:28 Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center Lines: 69 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: gregkimnach-nov.lerc.nasa.gov X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: news2.cais.com comp.sys.amiga.hardware:129901 rec.video.desktop:18846 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16357 this weekend some troubled cropped up with my a4000/vt4000/flyer system. the trouble more than likely has something to do with the a4000/warp engine. first off, my amiga system configuration is: a4000 with buster rev11 warp engine 3040 with two 32meg double sided simms maxtor 1.6gig ide drive (system--including toaster/flyer s/w) vt4000/flyer 4.1 soundswitch personal componenet adapter all of this is in a highflyer expansion chassis and i have a toshiba 3401b (2x scsi cd-rom) in an external enclosure. the flyer drives, tape backup, video distribution amp, personal v-scope, and kitchen sync are housed in a "flight recorder" mid-tower case. as for the problem which suddenly began on saturday: i cannot create a framestore (cg page or captured image from one of the toaster inputs). the cg renders and is saved, but trying to load it in a project (or just double-clicking on its icon on the ide system drive, where it is located) results in roughly the top 20% of the fs loading. a second attempt causes the system to give me a guru error (didn't right down the number for the sw and task numbers). furthermore, i cannot load a fs cg page, which i created, into toasterpaint. the system locks up. same with a framestore that i capture from video. interestingly enough, none of this occurs with the flyer s/w supplied framestores. i can load those into tp or into the dv_ buffers. however, as i was trying to figure out what was happening, i loaded two of the flyer framestores (the vt and vt4000 logos) consecutively into a project, assigned them a duration of 15 seconds, and hit play. the following error popped up: Problem discovered: Possible unknown sequencing error Possible Solutions: Check for SCSI cable/termination problems Try voidall to alleviate possible head problems Can also be caused by corrupt clip. now, keep in mind that these frames stores are on the ide system drive (not scsi) and that the flyer hard drives have been "freshly" formatted. so i digitized a video sequence to one of the video drives, and placed it between the two aforementioned croutons in the project. fs [15sec] ==> video clip [15sec] ==> fs [15sec] this now plays! remove the video clip, and i get the error again. there is something amiss with either my flyer software, my a4000, or my toaster/flyer hardware:-( any ideas? thanks, greg p.s. i have no trouble with key, scroll, and crawl pages. it seems to be limited to my dv buffers (framestores). p.p.s. i am going to replace the ide system drive with a scsi drive on the w.e.3040. regards, greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "ED Beta is simply the best consumer videotape format available." --Video Magazine (Nov.1992, p. 30) "Manufacturers may have a point when they perceive the U.S. consumer electronics market as unsophisticated." --VideoMaker (March 1993, p. 88) I opted for Betamax, the world for VHS. I for Amiga, the world for IBM clones. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Article: 16358 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!csn!news-1.csn.net!gw1.att.com!gw2.att.com!nntphub.cb.att.com!news From: Lyle Milton Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: RE: MacroForm Date: 8 Apr 1996 18:48:10 GMT Organization: AT&T Lines: 53 Message-ID: <4kbn1a$4na@nntpa.cb.att.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 135.5.44.* Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (Windows; U; 16bit) To: pfinch@best.com pfinch@best.com (Phillip Finch) wrote: .... >And, what the heck happened to Macroform for Intel? It's been months >since they released it in Arexx...an NT version can't be *that* tough. >(Maybe somebody ought to slip these guys a copy of BML). Phillip, your post implies that there have been delays in the release of MacroForm or that we are incompetent as devolopers. I take exception to this because we have tried to be truthful and honest to our current users and have tried to project a very professional image; and, your post may undermine our efforts by erroneously giving our users (and potential users) the wrong impression about our company, One And Only Media. In truth, MacroForm was not slated for release until end-of-first to the beginning-of-second quater of 96. If you have ever visited our web page or contacted us directly you would know this. It is now the beginning of the second quater, and yes there have been a couple of delays that will set our schedule back by ~1 month (which, still keeps us in the beginning of second quater timeframe). This is very good targeting in the software development business. We have only been working on the plug-in version since 12/95 (upon return from the VTU Expo 95). Given that we had LW, dongle and hardware compatibility problems and had to learn the LW plug-in architecture, our total plug-in MacroForm developement time to date is ~3.5 months. You should also keep in mind that MacroForm has only been available for ~8 months; there is still a great deal of time devoted to supporting and maintaining our current user base (any of our users that have contacted us can attest to customer focus). Having said that, it is important to note that we are a not a large company; we are plug-in developers. We all have to wear multiple hats. When you consider that fact, there is an average of ~4 hours a day actually spent working on the plug-in version of MacroForm. Now that ~3.5 months is looking more like ~1.75 months. At the risk of sounding cocky, if you are capable of producing plug-ins as complex as MacroForm (which is actually 2 plug-ins BTW) in ~3 months send your resume to One And Only Media, P.O. Box 218, Vauxhall,NJ 07088...we may be looking for freelancers in the near future. To those of you who already own MacroForm, rest assured you will be the first to be notified of MacroForm 2.0's availability. Until then...Enjoy MacroForm! Lyle Milton One And Only Media oaomedia@chelsea.ios.com http://chelsea.ios.com:80/~oaomedia Article: 16359 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!news.mindlink.net!van-bc!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!usenet From: sales@mt-inc.com (MicroTech) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: PictureBlack Date: 8 Apr 1996 19:18:05 GMT Organization: MCSNet Internet Services Lines: 35 Message-ID: <1426.6672T710T2375@mt-inc.com> References: <4k64i6$9hh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mtinc.pr.mcs.net X-Newsreader: THOR 2.22 (Amiga;TCP/IP) On 06-Apr-96 11:02:14, RobAnims (robanims@aol.com) posted: > Hello. > I'm I lightwave 4.0 user running on a 275 dec alpha. Doing Corporate > animations I have a general question for the learned out in Cyberspace. > Some of my clients are asking for Picture Black or SuperBlack when I dub > my Lightwave Anims to BetacamSP. Can I achieve this through a lightwave > panel option that I am not familiar with? Or Is this a hardware only > addon and if so what do I need? > Thanks This is really more a feature of your hardware output graphics system rather than the software. You don't mention what you use, but the Perception and PAR have settings for this. If you're feeding the frames back to a Toaster for layout, the Toaster forces the output to 'NTSC-legal' black of 7.5 IRE, and does not allow 0 IRE (super black). John Crookshank MicroTech -- ______________________________________________________________ / MicroTech Sales Staff | Raptor3 DEC Alpha Workstations \ | MicroTech Solutions, Inc. | Lightwave 3D, Toaster/Flyer | | Desktop Video Systems Dealer | JVC Professional Video Products | | NewTek Systems Group Dealer | PVR, Speed Razor, Amiga Dealer | |------------------------------|---------------------------------| | sales@mt-inc.com http://www.mt-inc.com/ | \______________________________________________________________/ Article: 16360 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: equinoxii@aol.com (Equinox II) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 8 Apr 1996 15:19:48 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 12 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kbosk$2j6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kbhd8$t7e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: equinoxii@aol.com (Equinox II) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Unbelievable. I had to read it over three times, just to make sure it wasn't some sort of joke. It sure explains why everytime anyone asked about how it would do anything, they would just repeat the mantra of "LightWave" over and over, as if by invoking it all their problems would be solved. I guess they thought if they announced it, by sheer force of will it get done later. --Brian Equinox Images, Inc. http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/ Article: 16361 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Star Wars and Lightwave Date: 8 Apr 1996 19:22:07 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4kbp0v$94d@news.accessone.com> References: <4kaaec$r7i@nntp.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > rci@crl.com (Michael Powell) writes: > 2001: is an outstanding film for it's effects... not only > holding up by today's standards, but quite frankly *rarely* > surpassed by modern films. Kubrick intentionally stayed > well within established effects techniques in most instances, > avoiding 'pushing' the technology (you simply don't see > spacecraft crossing over other spacraft or planets for example). Indeed. The last time I saw "2001", last year, I was FLOORED by how modern it looked. It hadn't aged a day, even with all those defunct company logos in the background. A seminal achievement in cinema. ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16362 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!van-bc!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!usenet From: sales@mt-inc.com (MicroTech) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: CybergraphicX on LightWave 4.0?? Date: 8 Apr 1996 19:18:47 GMT Organization: MCSNet Internet Services Lines: 47 Message-ID: <2280.6672T749T2053@mt-inc.com> References: <509.6667T702T88@mbox200.swipnet.se> <3166fb49.18596185@news.infi.net> <1694.6671T148T1821@mbox200.swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: mtinc.pr.mcs.net X-Newsreader: THOR 2.22 (Amiga;TCP/IP) On 07-Apr-96 02:28:36, Johan Otterstrom (videoking@mbox200.swipnet.se) posted: > The problem is in Layout when you promote > it, animation preview no longer works (invisible!). This renders ;) > LightWave quite useless for animation work (the reason I got it in the > first place). The reason for this is that Lightwave used a programming trick of the Amiga copper to do the animated wireframes, so it is displayed using 0 CPU cycles, the Amiga graphics hardware is doing all the work. There is no graphics emulation available for the copper - none of the Amiga graphics cards can do that. It would require something like an OpenGL card. This is not possible on any of the Amiga graphics cards, unless someone came up with perhaps an Amiga OpenGL card or something similar. It is the same reason that this feature is not present on any of the cross-platform versions of Lightwave, only on the Amiga. It would bog the system down too much to have the CPU doing all that redrawing while you are modeling. It's not a bug, it's just the natural limitation of the hardware. I believe Stuart mentioned this in one of their seminars, and said that trying to do it through the CPU so that it would work like the native Amiga display version would generate such poor performance that no one would like it anyway, so it was left out on purpose. Amiga graphics cards emulate many aspects of the Amiga custom graphics chipset. I myself use a Spectrum card with Cybergraphics, and I believe Stuart at one time mentioned that he had a Picasso card. But the real-time animation capabilities of the Amiga is not one of the things that can be emulated well by any Amiga graphics card. Regards, John Crookshank MicroTech -- ______________________________________________________________ / MicroTech Sales Staff | Raptor3 DEC Alpha Workstations \ | MicroTech Solutions, Inc. | Lightwave 3D, Toaster/Flyer | | Desktop Video Systems Dealer | JVC Professional Video Products | | NewTek Systems Group Dealer | PVR, Speed Razor, Amiga Dealer | |------------------------------|---------------------------------| | sales@mt-inc.com http://www.mt-inc.com/ | \______________________________________________________________/ Article: 16363 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.exodus.net!news.wni.com!news1.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!news2.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: gregtee@ix.netcom.com(William Teegarden) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 8 Apr 1996 05:59:33 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 32 Message-ID: <4kaa05$dmu@cloner3.netcom.com> References: <4k6cjb$cbt@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lax-ca25-10.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Apr 07 10:59:33 PM PDT 1996 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34040 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16363 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14399 > --->Fnny you should say that, becuase Autodesk has been doing feature >films with 3Dstudio for a while now. Who do you think did the >animation for Johny Neumonic?? > >mjm<--- The cyber sequence in Johnny Neumonic was done with both Alias amd 3DS. These are not the type of F/X that I'm talkig about though. I'm talking about more subtle, "invisible" effects where the viewer dosen't realize that what they're looking at is synthetic. Although the stuff in Johnny Neumonic looked cool, it didn't fool anybody into thinking that this environment existed in reality. It was obviously computer generated, which was probably the point. There are two kinds of F/X shots, the "Oh my God! Look at that" type effect, and then the "I don't see anything unusual" type effect. Although the first type is often fun to produce and cool to watch, the later is often times much more technically difficult and demanding. It is in these areas that LW is making some great progress, thanks in part to it's continued development in high profile F/X facilities. GT --------------------------------------------------- Digital Domain : gregt@d2.com Netcom : gregtee@ix.netcom.com Real World : Greg Teegarden --------------------------------------------------- Article: 16364 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 8 Apr 1996 15:47:15 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 16 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kbqg3$34a@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kbosk$2j6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com WAIT STOP! HOLD THE PRESSES!! I talked to John Foust on the phone - despite how the post read, he was NOT referring to last year's NAB showing of 'PC Toaster' - but to something that happened YEARS ago, about the Mac-ToasterLink time frame... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16365 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: achan@ix.netcom.com(Alan Chan ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Image Sequences & Pyromania Date: 7 Apr 1996 19:14:01 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 26 Message-ID: <4k945p$s4m@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> References: <3167AA65.493E@aloha.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: whx-ca1-01.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Apr 07 2:14:01 PM CDT 1996 In <3167AA65.493E@aloha.net> Todd Mizomi writes: > >Sorry if this topic has been discussed before. (Could someone put it in >the FAQ?) > >We're having trouble using Pyromania image sequences in lightwave. When >we load an image sequence in, map it onto something and do a test >render, no image sequence. We are NOT test rendering frame 0, always >something like frame 30 or 50, where there the image sequence should be >well underway, but so far zip. > >If anyone has solutions or tips, please email us at mcgyver@aloha.net Your Pyro image sequences have 5 digits in them, something like ZG03045.TGA or so. This fools Lightwave's autoreader, so much so that once you doubleclick on an image, notice that the basename is now ZG. You have to specify 5 sequence digits. Also note that pyro sequences start at numbers way above 0 - 3045 is the first image, for example. So your frame offset must be set to 3045. AC Article: 16366 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!nntp.uio.no!ns.ftns.no!kether!art From: art@kether.follonett.no (Arthur Hagen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,alt.design.graphics,comp.graphics.apps.alias Subject: Re: Web Design & Pantone to RGB Date: 8 Apr 1996 20:02:20 GMT Organization: Interactive Design Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4kbrcc$9mg@nic.ftns.no> References: <4jsbc9$r79@news1.io.org> Reply-To: art@mother.idg.no NNTP-Posting-Host: kether.follonett.no Xref: news2.cais.com comp.sys.amiga.graphics:47247 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16366 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:14633 alt.design.graphics:1709 comp.graphics.apps.alias:1511 In article , prink@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us writes: > When doing Web graphics, I always kick my monitor down to 256 colors as a > "least common denominator", and then use an RGB color picker. This gives > the most predictable results. To be "safe", only use the 216 available colors from a standard windows colormap, i.e. colors #ffcc99 #663300 and various combinations of these. Netscape 2+ now displays true colors for gifs if you have 24-bits, but if you use java, gifs are dithered to the standard colormap no matter what the input is, and no matter what the display of the viewer is. More info at http://mother.idg.no/~art/colors/ -- Arthur Hagen, Sysadmin, Interactive Design Business: art@design.idg.no / http://www.design.idg.no/ Personal: art@mother.idg.no / http://mother.idg.no/~art/ Flames: billg@microsoft.com / http://127.0.0.1/ Article: 16367 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news.2sprint.net!news.iadfw.net!usenet From: Lance Gray Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Flyer Clip for PC patch Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 16:20:49 -0700 Organization: Empire Productions Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <31699F51.13E4@airmail.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dal04-18.ppp.iadfw.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; U) I saw a message posted yesterday (which I can't find anymore) referring to the Flyer Clipsave for PC LightWave---is this available elsewhere other than the NewTek Ftp site...since I can't seem to get on lately (is their site down????) thanks...Lance <>< -- ________________________________________________________________________ Lance Gray (empire@airmail.net) **25 GIG Flyer & PC LightWave equipped** "If you are insulted because of the name of CHRIST, you are blessed, for the spirit of GOD rests on you." 1 Peter 14 ________________________________________________________________________ Article: 16368 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!usenet From: Benn Dunnington Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Pro/E to LW conversion possible? Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 15:37:22 -0600 Organization: University of Iowa Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <31698712.4439@ccad.uiowa.edu> Reply-To: bdunning@ccad.uiowa.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: benn.mac.ccad.uiowa.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hello- I need to convert some 3D objects from Pro/ENGINEER (HP Unix flavor) to LightWave or LightWave-readable format. If Pro/E output DXF or 3DS or OBJ, it would be no problem, but as far as I can tell, it won't. PielPro is no help, and I don't think interchange Any ideas??? Commercial or PD? (besides HP Unix and Amiga Toaster 4000 I also have access to PowerMac, but no Windoze platform). Thanks in advance, -Benn -- Benn Dunnington / Media Coordinator | bdunning@ccad.uiowa.edu Center for Computer Aided Design | voice: (319) 335-2481 The University of Iowa | FAX: (319) 335-3380 444 IATL / Iowa City, IA 52242-1000 | http://www.ccad.uiowa.edu/~bdunning/ Article: 16369 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom. From: twilcox@ix.netcom.com (Tim Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Pc ZIP disks in a MAC zip drive?? Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 21:24:22 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4k9c34$r9g@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4juu58$ad1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: lax-ca24-04.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Apr 07 2:29:08 PM PDT 1996 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 adamchry@cats.ucsc.edu (Adam Ives Chrystie) wrote: >Here is the question..Say i have a ZIP disk formatted in a Pc zip >drive..IF I use PC-Exchange on the mac, will teh Mac Zip drive read teh >PC zip disk???? >Adam Chrystie >-- >---------------------------------- >Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator >Cinema/Video Major, Senior >University Of California at Santa Cruz If you use the guest driver on the zip tools disk (for the MAC), the MAC wil read the PC formatted disk ok. If you don't have the driver for the MAC, try www.iomega.com.......... tim Article: 16370 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.fibr.net!nntp.news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!ip18-091.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Now I'm confused... LIGHTWAVE 4.0 or 3D MAX? Date: 8 Apr 1996 16:12:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 55 Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: References: <4kbif0$55q@newsflash.concordia.ca> X-Posted-By: ip18-091.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <4kbif0$55q@newsflash.concordia.ca> jja_che@alcor.concordia.ca (Andy Chen) writes: >From: jja_che@alcor.concordia.ca (Andy Chen) >Subject: Now I'm confused... LIGHTWAVE 4.0 or 3D MAX? >Date: 8 Apr 1996 17:30:08 GMT >I posted a while a back for a home animation studio hardware setup. The >software of choice is Lightwave 4.0 (Intel version). BUT now with all the >big yahoo.. I am getting a bit mixed up. [stuff snipped] >Argh, and would 3DS MAX work on the hardware configuration that I posted >before? (Perception card, Matrox vid card, NT O/S, 64 MB RAM, P166?) >Thanks for any reply... >Andy Chen >-- Your hardware configuration should be fine for either of the programs. Both programs run unter NT. I personally would never use 3DS because it is a DOS program and I'd really miss the multitasking. 3DS MAX "sounds" like a contender. It is possible that it could end up being THE program - who knows. The problem is that oppinions will differ and it will take some time to find out what the true advantages are. LW costs about $800 street price. It is available now. 3DS MAX is expected very soon - about 30 days and costs somewhere around $2500? Even if it ships on time, who knows when you can get it in your hands. If I were to risk money on a product, I'd rather risk it on the lower priced product first. Lets say you bought LW tomorrow. Lets say you decide it is crap and you should have bought 3DS MAX. What is your downside? $800. If you go the other way, what is your downside? As a final note - remember that this is not necessarily some pivotal crossroad where the choice you make will lock you into some direction forever. You could probably re-sell either program at a small loss. I bet LW would go quickly at $500 with a letter transfering ownership. So don't stress out over this. We use LW. We will look at 3DS MAX because it is stupid not to explore options. However, I must admit that I don't like the idea that the software used on a machine costs a significant percentage of the machine itself. With multiple seats, this adds up. Assuming 5 seats, MAX costs around $10,000 more to use. That's enough to get a DEC Alpha for rendering. So for me, the costs of 3DS MAX and the fact that I have most of my experience with LW weigh heavily toward staying with LW. Everybody's situation is different. In the end ya gotta just make a decision and do it. Maybe your best decision would be to go to NAB and see for yourself. Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Studio 522 Productions |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber http://www.studio522.com |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber Article: 16371 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gkeenan818@aol.com (GKeenan818) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Dongle Failure Date: 8 Apr 1996 19:12:03 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 15 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kc6g3$7cu@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <31680b1f.6347577@news.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Well, after reading about the reliability of the dongle I've just had one of mine drop dead in front of me! I ran the new modeller patch, ran the new modeller and then the program reported that the dongle was not there. Thinking that there was some kind of screw up in the patch, I installed everything again and still got the same problem. After using one of my other dongles in the machine, the software kicked in without any problems! So..... let's see how long it will take for NewTek to replace my dongle (in the United Kingdom), and also how much I'm going to be stung in shipping. A report will appear here if anything interesting happens..... Article: 16372 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.fibr.net!nntp.news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!ip18-091.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 8 Apr 1996 16:28:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 55 Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31633351.3E7C@osu.edu> <31670A7D.7EE7@osu.edu> X-Posted-By: ip18-091.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14408 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16372 comp.graphics.animation:34048 In article <31670A7D.7EE7@osu.edu> Jeff Jasper writes: >From: Jeff Jasper >Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. >Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 19:21:17 -0500 >> As I recall, most of the bugs with the 4.0 pre-release were related to the >> HIIP filters. Additionally, 4.0 was a port to a completely different >> platform!! 5.0 release won't have either these issues to deal with so it >> really doesn't make a lot of sense to compare the 4.0 pre-release with a 5.0 >> release. I had 4.0 pre-release and found that it was stable. The program was >> not inclined to crash - whether rendering or not. It was perfectly acceptable >> for our production work (video graphics). In fact, most of the bugs had no >> effect on us at all since we did not have a need for the HIIP filters. >> >> This doesn't mean that 5.0 will not be buggy. It could go either >> way depending on how much is changed and how much has been tested. The >> situations surrounding 4.0 pre-release and the rumored 5.0 release are >> significantly different though. >> >> So - will MAX have a competitive upgrade offer? >I really didn't mean it as an attack, it just seemed odd that NewTek was releasing >5.0 so soon. I too agree that it is odd. I suspect it is a premature announcement. However, that isn't what you said. You said that LW 4.0 prerelease was buggy so you expect that LW 5.0 would also be buggy. There is no necessary connection. >I guess MAX and Softimage will keep them with their faces glued to >their code for a while. Maybe now that NewTek is really on the defensive by >competing on the PC animation market we will see new even wilder stuff that will >make us all ewww and ahh. I would like to see a 5.0 version with all the niceties >of MAX or Softimage at a fraction of the price. I'm just hopeing that NewTek isn't >rushing 5.0 out the door to meet MAX's ship date. Me too. >You have to remember that the Yost >group has been working on MAX for about 2 years, Newtek doesn't need to rush anything >to the market that isn't ready yet. Hopefully that since they have been able to >work most the bugs out with 4.0 that 5.0 has been easy fixes and a few new features. >I guess we can only wait and see what happens at NAB. Not sure if Autodesk offers >cometitive pricing, does anyone else know? >Jeff With MAX selling at around three times the price of LW - it better be a smokin' program or have a competitive upgrade program if they want to win over LW users. Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Studio 522 Productions |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber http://www.studio522.com |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber Article: 16373 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!nntp.news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!steph From: Steph Greenberg Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 8 Apr 1996 17:08:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010 Lines: 29 Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: <4kc9p1$gj0@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31633351.3E7C@osu.edu> <31670A7D.7EE7@osu.edu> X-Posted-By: steph@usr3.primenet.com Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14410 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16373 comp.graphics.animation:34049 Walter (Jay) Turberville (III) wrote: : In article <31670A7D.7EE7@osu.edu> Jeff Jasper writes: : >I really didn't mean it as an attack, it just seemed odd that NewTek was releasing : >5.0 so soon. : I too agree that it is odd. I suspect it is a premature announcement. : However, that isn't what you said. You said that LW 4.0 prerelease was buggy : so you expect that LW 5.0 would also be buggy. There is no necessary : connection. OK, every release of Lightwave since 1.0 has been buggy. There is no reason to assume 5.0 will be any different. Of course, I've yet to see any software that wasn't buggy on a major upgrade. It seems like being a 3D animator puts you in perpetual beta testing mode. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steph Greenberg "Whenever I truly think something can't be steph@primenet.com done, that is when I redouble my efforts to prove myself wrong." Copyright 1996. All Rights Reserved. Permission granted for non-commercial electronic republication only, such as Usenet and Email, and non-commercial educational purposes such as charge free WWW pages. Express permission is required for any other use. When in doubt, ask. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article: 16374 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!interaccess!mfrazin.interaccess.com!mfrazin From: mfrazin@interaccess.com (Shadow) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: NEWBIE QUESTIONS lw 4.0 on win95 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:35:37 -0600 Organization: InterAccess,Chicagoland's Full Service Internet Provider Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: d197.nnb.interaccess.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] I AM USE TO LIGHTWAVE ON THE AMIGA. I just upgraded to lw 4.0 on the PC and have two questions so far. 1) on the amiga you could save a series of framestores or images to the harddrive and then send them as a series of images to a single frame animation recorder (much easier on the recorder hardware) at a later time. Can you do this on the PC and if so, how? 2) on the PC using win95 will things render faster if you minimize layout to the task bar? thank you. Article: 16375 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!jupiter.planet.net!earth.planet.net!tlisanti From: tlisanti@earth.planet.net (Tony Lisanti) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Best of LightWave Pro Date: 9 Apr 1996 00:44:13 GMT Organization: Planet Access Networks - Stanhope, NJ Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <960302014214454@FrontierTech.COM> References: <4im2l4$3j0@news.voicenet.com> <4kagt6$mnm@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: tlisanti@earth.planet.net NNTP-Posting-Host: nutl9.planet.net X-Newsreader: SuperHighway Access 2 for Windows Version 95.11 In message <4kagt6$mnm@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, gkeenan818@aol.com (GKeenan818) writes: >I'm sorry of this question has appeared on here recently, but here goes >anyway... > >Has anyone received their copy of The Best Of LightWave Pro yet? I ordered >four copies, and expected to get them at the end of December. My Visa card >got charged, but nothing appeared through the post. A quick telephone call >to AMG to find out what was going on and I was told that the printers had >made a mistake (or something) and the book would be out around the end of >March.... > I was told that it would ship in april. I think they should really do something for all of us who have been awaiting this package all this time.. At least a bonus book or CD or a discount coupon or something.. Tony Article: 16376 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.cs.ucla.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!not-for-mail From: jcahill@pacific.ics.uci.edu (Jason M. Cahill) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: HELP! Need lightwave plug-in code/docs... HELP! Date: 8 Apr 1996 17:33:21 -0700 Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4kcb8h$3bb@pacific.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.ics.uci.edu I just bought a copy of Lightwave a few days back, and ever since have been trying to log on to ftp.newtek.com (and the alternate). Neither of these are running, and I need a copy of the plug-in SDK. Can someone with this file(s) please email it to me, or better yet, give me a non-NewTek FTP site address with this software. Much thanks! Jason M. Cahill Graduate Student of Computer Graphics University of California, Irvine jcahill@ics.uci.edu Article: 16377 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news From: Bryant Reif Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, Subject: Re: LW and Edge3D Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 22:01:11 -0400 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3169C4E7.4CB5@pilot.msu.edu> References: <3167B7BD.17BD@xs4all.nl> <4kbckp$ktn@pipe11.nyc.pipeline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crc11-fddi.cris.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Michael Justin Austin wrote: > Because if it is not real time ray tracing then > its just a toy :-) > > regards You're just joking here, right? -- Bryant Reif mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant Article: 16378 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!marbls.enet.dec.com!leimberger From: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: B5 spaceship design Date: 8 Apr 1996 20:35:54 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kbtba$glc@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <4jvg0o$5uq@news.accessone.com> <2649.6668T560T443@execpc.com> Reply-To: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () NNTP-Posting-Host: marbls.enet.dec.com |> Part of the design appears to be artistic choice. I find the |>appearance of the ships to be unusual, unlike other TV effects, but I |>can't say that the hull patterns look unrealistic. |> |> OTOH, perhaps Ron Thorton & Co. could explain their reasoning behind |>the hull panel pattern, other than "it looks good to me". I can think |>of some reasons, involving use of new materials, but I don't know that |>they are correct. I suppose I could drop by the B5 newsgroups and find |>out? ;) |> |>-- |>*-__________________________ | *Starfire* | _________________________-* |>Jeff Jones email:jeffsj@execpc.com *//* Amiga Lives! |Born |>*TFG* *Starfire* Design Studio *\\//* 1985-1994, |again 1995! |>-- |> WGL> Ron Thornton goes into design and texturing in his Modeler and Texturing Spacecraft series of tapes. I just watched the modeler tape agisn this weekend. He explaines the use of nernies for adding texture (not to be confused with image map testuring). He goes to great length to explain modeling to make the most out of specularity ect. The tapes are full of hints and his perspective on why he does things the way he does. As for B5 lighten up its only TV. I think the people here tend to get carried away sometimes. They may have a better idea/method, but Ron Thorton is making money today! As for the the reason "It look good to me" I find that fine. Maybe hte priority is on making the deadlines as opposed to developing new image maps. -bill Article: 16379 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!marbls.enet.dec.com!leimberger From: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW faster than 3DS ? Date: 8 Apr 1996 20:57:08 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 140 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kbuj4$glc@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu> Reply-To: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () NNTP-Posting-Host: marbls.enet.dec.com In article <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu>, Bryant Reif writes: |>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!enews.sgi.com!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news |>From: Bryant Reif |>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave |>Subject: Re: LW faster than 3DS ? |>Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 19:33:29 -0500 |>Organization: Concentric Internet Services |>Lines: 26 |>Message-ID: <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu> |>References: <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: crc11-fddi.cris.com |>Mime-Version: 1.0 |>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit |>X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) |> |>Andreas Resch wrote: |>> |>> I have been working with 3DS 4 on a PC and with PowerAnimator on an SGI |>> |>> I heard (from NewTek) that Lightwave is much faster than 3DS in |>> rendering/raytracing. |>> |>> I would like to know : IS IT TRUE ?? |>> |>> and how much faster is it ? |>> |>> Any comments welcome |>> |>> Andreas Resch |> |>From what I have heard 3DS is slightly faster than LW in scanline |>rendering. BUT in a comparison of LW's raytracer and 3DS w/ ray plug-in |>LW's is MUCH faster I believe. This is due to the control that LW gives |>you in selecting what does and does not get traced. (i.e. you can have |>a sphere that only reflects one object out of many, or objects that |>don't cast nor receive shadows.) |>-- |> |>Bryant Reif |>mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu |>http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant |> In article <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu>, Bryant Reif writes: |>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!enews.sgi.com!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news |>From: Bryant Reif |>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave |>Subject: Re: LW faster than 3DS ? |>Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 19:33:29 -0500 |>Organization: Concentric Internet Services |>Lines: 26 |>Message-ID: <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu> |>References: <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: crc11-fddi.cris.com |>Mime-Version: 1.0 |>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit |>X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) |> |>Andreas Resch wrote: |>> |>> I have been working with 3DS 4 on a PC and with PowerAnimator on an SGI |>> |>> I heard (from NewTek) that Lightwave is much faster than 3DS in |>> rendering/raytracing. |>> |>> I would like to know : IS IT TRUE ?? |>> |>> and how much faster is it ? |>> |>> Any comments welcome |>> |>> Andreas Resch |> |>From what I have heard 3DS is slightly faster than LW in scanline |>rendering. BUT in a comparison of LW's raytracer and 3DS w/ ray plug-in |>LW's is MUCH faster I believe. This is due to the control that LW gives |>you in selecting what does and does not get traced. (i.e. you can have |>a sphere that only reflects one object out of many, or objects that |>don't cast nor receive shadows.) |>-- |> |>Bryant Reif |>mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu |>http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant |> In article <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu>, Bryant Reif writes: |>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!enews.sgi.com!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news |>From: Bryant Reif |>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave |>Subject: Re: LW faster than 3DS ? |>Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 19:33:29 -0500 |>Organization: Concentric Internet Services |>Lines: 26 |>Message-ID: <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu> |>References: <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: crc11-fddi.cris.com |>Mime-Version: 1.0 |>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit |>X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) |> |>Andreas Resch wrote: |>> |>> I have been working with 3DS 4 on a PC and with PowerAnimator on an SGI |>> |>> I heard (from NewTek) that Lightwave is much faster than 3DS in |>> rendering/raytracing. |>> |>> I would like to know : IS IT TRUE ?? |>> |>> and how much faster is it ? |>> |>> Any comments welcome |>> |>> Andreas Resch |> |>From what I have heard 3DS is slightly faster than LW in scanline |>rendering. BUT in a comparison of LW's raytracer and 3DS w/ ray plug-in |>LW's is MUCH faster I believe. This is due to the control that LW gives |>you in selecting what does and does not get traced. (i.e. you can have |>a sphere that only reflects one object out of many, or objects that |>don't cast nor receive shadows.) |>-- |> |>Bryant Reif |>mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu |>http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant |> Bryant, How can anybody really compare the two programs ? Look at LW, it defaults to trace shadows in the camera setup. Then you can select all kinds of options some related to scenes, some to objects and lights. Their are enough variables to deal with that it really makes comparison hard, unless the person is an expert in both programs with the ability to filter the options used so the ground is at least flat if not equal. -bill BTW I saw you on the mailing list. I thought you had opted to go with 3DS due to the student discount. Article: 16380 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!marbls.enet.dec.com!leimberger From: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 8 Apr 1996 22:11:06 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 73 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kc2tq$lpi@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <4k4463$vov@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <4k7s6p$brq@news.accessone.com> Reply-To: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () NNTP-Posting-Host: marbls.enet.dec.com In article <4k7s6p$brq@news.accessone.com>, jeric@accessone.com writes: |>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decuac.dec.com!haven.umd.edu!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news |>From: jeric@accessone.com |>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave |>Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. |>Date: 7 Apr 1996 07:51:53 GMT |>Organization: AccessOne |>Lines: 20 |>Message-ID: <4k7s6p$brq@news.accessone.com> |>References: <4k4463$vov@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com |>X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) |> |>> leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () writes: |> |>> Well in the above statements I see nothing that brings any value to the list. |>> If someone feels a need to carry on this thread at least list ALL these |>> great features Max has that LW don't. |> |> STOP RIGHT THERE! |> |> How about NOT continuing the thread? A much better place IMHO for this is in |>comp.graphics.animation, not either of the two dedicated groups. |> |> Too flammable. |> |> |> |>****************************************************************************** |>** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** |>** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** |>** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** |> |> In article <4k7s6p$brq@news.accessone.com>, jeric@accessone.com writes: |>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decuac.dec.com!haven.umd.edu!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news |>From: jeric@accessone.com |>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave |>Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. |>Date: 7 Apr 1996 07:51:53 GMT |>Organization: AccessOne |>Lines: 20 |>Message-ID: <4k7s6p$brq@news.accessone.com> |>References: <4k4463$vov@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com |>X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) |> |>> leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () writes: |> |>> Well in the above statements I see nothing that brings any value to the list. |>> If someone feels a need to carry on this thread at least list ALL these |>> great features Max has that LW don't. |> |> STOP RIGHT THERE! |> |> How about NOT continuing the thread? A much better place IMHO for this is in |>comp.graphics.animation, not either of the two dedicated groups. |> |> Too flammable. |> |> |> |>****************************************************************************** |>** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** |>** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** |>** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** |> |> I LIKE IT ! I'll support not answering this thread anymore. BTW I have an answer in the works but NO MORE. -bill Article: 16381 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!marbls.enet.dec.com!leimberger From: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: 8 Apr 1996 20:01:32 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kbras$glc@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31633351.3E7C@osu.edu> <31670A7D.7EE7@osu.edu> Reply-To: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () NNTP-Posting-Host: marbls.enet.dec.com Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14412 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16381 comp.graphics.animation:34052 |>I really didn't mean it as an attack, it just seemed odd that NewTek was releasing |>5.0 so soon. I haven't seen a release date for 5.0. When is it. Aside from that why is it odd ? In little over a year they released 4.0 for the PC, Alpha SGI, and Amiga. Now the ports are on place so they can get back to adding features ect. Not to mention they aquired a few good folks that have already displayed their abilities with other software. I mean people make it sound like AutoDesk is the only company in the world with software developers. LightWave is great today, why not expect it to be better tomorrow ? -bill |> Article: 16382 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!marbls.enet.dec.com!leimberger From: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.anima Subject: Re: TV: Why always LW and not 3DS? Date: 8 Apr 1996 20:48:04 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kbu24$glc@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <71333.42-1903961019380001@jdowdell_mac.macromedia.com.32.3.207.in-addr.arpa> <4jpajt$btc_001@gamemaster.qc.ca> <3160EFCD.6C42@osu.edu> Reply-To: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () NNTP-Posting-Host: marbls.enet.dec.com Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14413 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16382 In article <3160EFCD.6C42@osu.edu>, Jeff Jasper writes: |>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!news.jrd.dec. |>3DS uses standard lens settings. You can also create your own. Aspect ratios are |>really easy to do and are shown visually. I would like to see the output options |>in 3DS like Lightwave though. |> |>> In other words, if you're a designer trying to match graphics to film, LW |>> makes the simplest interface -- you don't need a video/film technician looking |>> over your shoulder to render the correct format. |> |>In 3DS you just display the frame as a background image to your modeling and |>animtion windows. I don't know of an easier way to do it than that. |> |>Jeff, Did you see the last two HyperNauts shows. The interaction with the Flying Mantas in the first was excellent, and the week they had the giant insects was also very good. A little more complex than displaying a background image. Of course in games this is all that is needed, in video/television you have to composit with real video. Mind you it's not all LW (I assume sombody does the composit later) but the person using LW has to keep all this in mind when he sets the scene up. -bill|> Article: 16383 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!netserv.com!pagesat.net!origin.ea.com!dloubet.origin.ea.com!dloubet From: dloubet@origin.ea.com (Denis Loubet) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Star Wars and LightWave Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:47:02 GMT Organization: Origin Systems Inc. Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <4k4ahm$bpg@scoop.eco.twg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dloubet.origin.ea.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #1] In article <4k4ahm$bpg@scoop.eco.twg.com> mike@vishnu.eco.twg.com (This space intentionally left blank) writes: >>That's true, but you can see a certain rhythm and consistancy to panel >>placement in real-world objects. If an artist can imitate that panel >>placement, then he can suggest realistic complex interior workings without >>having to design the interior. >Take a look at a fighter with all it's access panels open. There's not much >space left closed! Access pannels are placed wherever it's most convenient >for service, consistent with functional limitations on strength and >aerodynamics. Some are closed with a hundred fasteners, others have a >single recessed handle. Some blend into the surrounding paint almost >perfectly, some were painted seperatly and have a different level of gloss >or even a slightly different color (some are even transparent), and some are >outlined in a different color or have big arrows pointing to them to make >finding them in a hurry easier. Right! That's exactly right. If B5 made more of an attempt to match that in their human designed ships, I would consider it an improvement. >The one thing that is common to all access pannels is that their location, >size, color, material, etc. were NOT chosen for aesthetic effect but purely >for the job they are there to do. Form follows function in modern military >devices. Aesthetic effect, no, I was not suggesting that. But the very fact that there IS a function means that if the form follows that function, it's not random. Panel borders might follow the line of main structural members, or their shape can suggest the dimensions of the gun mounted behind them. >They aren't anything you've ever experienced before. Why do you expect them >to look like things they aren't, and that you've never seen anyway? Well, the trouble is that I get the impression that B5 is TRYING for a panelling effect much like modern jets, at least on the human craft, but not quite making it. Ah, well... -Denis- Article: 16384 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!nntpd From: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Is it true? Date: 9 Apr 1996 00:10:23 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 38 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kc9tf$lo6@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: Reply-To: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () NNTP-Posting-Host: marbls.enet.dec.com In article , mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) writes: |>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!news.jrd.dec.com!tbjnws.tbj.dec.com!tkonws.tko.dec.com!news.dec-j!spin-hsd0-tky!spinnews!wnoc-tyo-news!news.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp!newssinet!sinetnews!news.join.ad.jp!news.imnet.ad.jp!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.cais.net!n |>From: mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) |>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave |>Subject: Is it true? |>Message-ID: |>Date: 7 Apr 96 22:13:21 PST |>Organization: Tierra-Miga BBS |>Lines: 17 |> |>Is it true? I so far am unable to find a way to mirror my surface maps on |>objects. I'm going to dig through my manuals and books again to see, but as |>far as I can tell, the only way to do this is to make your textures to have |>matching edges first in a paint program before you map them onto any object. |>And then I was reviewing the Ron Thorton video tape on textures and he said |>that whenever you are going to have a texture wrap around and meet itself, |>that you need to make sure that the edges are the same, so as to not leave a |>seam. Of course this all makes plenty of sence, but I would have thought that |>an awesome program like LW would have a mirroring setting like in Strata or |>for that matter, practically any other 3D program that I can think of. |> |>So, please if anyone knows of such a way to do this, "mirroring", of textures |>then could you let me know. It really sucks having to go and crop, clip, and |>paste all of everyone of my textures just to make them "appear" to be |>seamless........ |> |>TIA..............md :) |> Imagine, I believed had a mirror option. regardless though if you want a seamless texture then I believe you need a seamless image map. I know other programs also require seamless images. If you load an image map apply it in a surface without autosizing it you will get a repetitive series of images layed out in a tile format. If the image is not made to be seamless then I think you will notice it regardless of the program. developing seamless maps for 3D has always been a problem. -bill Article: 16385 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!news.enteract.com!news.inap.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news From: Elder Dragon Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 21:08:13 -0400 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 27 Message-ID: <3169B87D.3D@cris.com> References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31633351.3E7C@osu.edu> <4k4463$vov@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crc15-fddi.cris.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14414 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16385 comp.graphics.animation:34053 leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com wrote: > > |>> Well, MAX still isn't shipping, right? LightWave is rumoured to be > |>> shipping 'soon'....so is it fair to say LW is playing 'catch-up' if they > |>> ship first? > |> > |>MAX should be shipping the end of this month, will Lightwave 5.0 be shipping > |>by then. If it is all I have to say is bug city like 4.0 prerelease. What > |>features will LW have over MAX? > |> > |>Jeff, > Well in the above statements I see nothing that brings any value to the list. > If someone feels a need to carry on this thread at least list ALL these > great features Max has that LW don't. If you can't bring anything to the > table other than when my puppy is born it's going to br better than your dog > then give it a rest. I think this multi list stuff sucks. If I want to read > about max I know where the 3dS list is, I can go there. BTW if you do compile > a list of all these killer features restrict it to those that only come with > the program. If you don't have the info then your not really in a position > to be saying anything > -bill > > I would say that 3DSM's greatest innovation is a completely editable and animatable stack of every aspect of every object. For instance, you can animate the complexity of an object throughout or open a 2 year old saved file and quickly change the size of a cube and all other things applied to it with 1 keypress. Article: 16386 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news From: Bryant Reif Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW faster than 3DS ? Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 23:10:29 -0400 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 82 Message-ID: <3169D525.7346@pilot.msu.edu> References: <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu> <4kbuj4$glc@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crc11-fddi.cris.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com wrote: > In article <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu>, Bryant Reif writes: > |>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!enews.sgi.com!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!newsfe > |>From: Bryant Reif > |>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave > |>Subject: Re: LW faster than 3DS ? > |>Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 19:33:29 -0500 > |>Organization: Concentric Internet Services > |>Lines: 26 > |>Message-ID: <3165BBD9.6497@pilot.msu.edu> > |>References: <3165465A.187E@darmstadt.netsurf.de> > |>NNTP-Posting-Host: crc11-fddi.cris.com > |>Mime-Version: 1.0 > |>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > |>X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) > |> > |>Andreas Resch wrote: > |>> > |>> I have been working with 3DS 4 on a PC and with PowerAnimator on an SGI > |>> > |>> I heard (from NewTek) that Lightwave is much faster than 3DS in > |>> rendering/raytracing. > |>> > |>> I would like to know : IS IT TRUE ?? > |>> > |>> and how much faster is it ? > |>> > |>> Any comments welcome > |>> > |>> Andreas Resch > |> > |>From what I have heard 3DS is slightly faster than LW in scanline > |>rendering. BUT in a comparison of LW's raytracer and 3DS w/ ray plug-in > |>LW's is MUCH faster I believe. This is due to the control that LW gives > |>you in selecting what does and does not get traced. (i.e. you can have > |>a sphere that only reflects one object out of many, or objects that > |>don't cast nor receive shadows.) > |>-- > |> > |>Bryant Reif > |>mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu > |>http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant > |> > Bryant, > How can anybody really compare the two programs ? Look at LW, it defaults > to trace shadows in the camera setup. Then you can select all kinds of > options some related to scenes, some to objects and lights. Their are enough > variables to deal with that it really makes comparison hard, unless the > person is an expert in both programs with the ability to filter the > options used so the ground is at least flat if not equal. Yeah, I kinda bit my tongue after posting this. I was just relaying what I had heard in my travels about the rendering differences between the two, but you are correct. I don't think anyone really knows for sure which is faster. > -bill > BTW I saw you on the mailing list. I thought you had opted to go with 3DS due > to the student discount. No. The common "misconception" for some people was that I had already decided to buy 3DS MAX. I had said that 3DS MAX looked very good (it is) and that I was seriously considering purchasing it over LW. I had expected people to reply with advice on this purchase, but instead it just started a flame war. My fault. I bought LW and I am very happy with it. The main reason I had looked into 3DS was because it is the standard in game development, and I wanted to learn it. As it turns out I have access to 3DS MAX now so I am able to train on it. This can be considered the best of both worlds I guess. BTW: my opinions still stand. Student discounts are beneficial (hundreds of companies can't be wrong), although NT may not be in the right position to do so. 3DS MAX is VERY VERY good. I hope, and would really like to see, LW 5.0 come out and top it. Allen, Stuart, and Fori have their work cut out for them, but I'm rooting for them. -- Bryant Reif mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant Article: 16387 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.sojourn.com!condor.ic.net!news.cic.net!news.gatecom.com!gatecoms!cgolchert From: cgolchert@gatecoms.gatecom.com (Chris Golchert) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: volumetric shadows Date: 9 Apr 1996 02:33:51 GMT Organization: Gateway Communications Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4kciaf$7d2@www.gatecom.com> References: <4k4j3q$nu0@bolivia.it.earthlink.net> <4kajv1$ni8@islandnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gatecoms.gatecom.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Christopher Stewart (dretch@islandnet.com) wrote: : S> I just saw the ad for 3dsMAX in New Media. Is there a way to do : S> volumetric lighting/shadows in LW4? (Other than creating a bunch of : S> opacity mapped cones) : Grrr... no. I just saw an ElectricImage rendered game test with : TONS of volumetrics. He just pressed buttons.... Grrr... I'm reading a paper someone did that may turn into a plugin...but I have other features in line first...Full volumetric lighting (cheater methods i.e. fast) : * Offline Orbit 0.73c * Article: 16388 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news-in.tiac.net!news.tiac.net!usenet From: Solo Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: 1000+free 3d mpdels! Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 22:51:44 -0700 Organization: CGID Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3169FAF0.143F@tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cgid.tiac.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) For serious 3d Studio animators only. !!! e-mail us your request for FREE DEMO now!!! For limited time download any and all models and motion paths from any and all versions of the Viewpoint dataset CD-Rom ver. 1.xx, 2.xx for only $99.95 We guarantee that you’ll love the product. Free demo will allow you to download 2 free models (in case you don’t believe us). Article: 16389 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!li.net!usenet From: Richard L'Hommedieu Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: WTB: DEC/Raptor Lightwave renderstation Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 22:13:02 -0700 Organization: LI Net (Long Island Network) Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3169F1DE.1244@li.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: limg.li.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) I have money in hand and I'm looking of a DEC/Raptor3 (21164) Render station ... so if you are upgrading to a faster system and want to get ride of that old 266 or so ... let me know Rich Article: 16390 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 9 Apr 1996 03:16:27 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4kckqb$jep@news.accessone.com> References: <4k9l7r$dsv@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) writes: > If offered, will we choose a $500 upgrade to 5.0, or a $1000 upgrade to > MAX? This is a FALSE DICHOTOMY. For me, it is NOT an option to switch to Max (not that I'm about to), unless there's some NEW competitive upgrade program at Autodesk. Is there? I swear, if that is not true, given the name of the thread and this mis- leading post, that Autodesk is hiring agent provocateurs. ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16391 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.igcom.net!usenet From: "sudraka@outer.com" Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95,alt.2600,alt.26 Subject: Re: HOW TO DO A BATCH HTTP FILE DOWNLOAD hybridv=putz Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 21:44:07 -0500 Organization: InterGlobal Communications Lines: 12 Message-ID: <3169CEF7.3FD79FB8@outer.com> References: <315df4e7.30083078@nntp.loop.com> <31601c49.6539557@news.compuserve.com> <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com> <3161a179.438764@news.earthlink.net> <4k5bvp$d28@usenet7.interramp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin1.sp.outer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34060 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16391 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:13446 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14419 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x:1392 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95:7721 alt.26 >shut the FUCK up loser... Win95 Does better multitasking then os/2 by >far obviously you have either a shitty computer or you just suck... > >i can run 3d studio, 2 versions of netscape, 2 versions of agent, and >adobe premiere 4.2 all at the same time with no noticble slow down or >crashes... therefor you dont know how to fucking setup your computer >or your just a dumbass... > >HybridV > {sniff sniff} Do you smell something? Bullshit? Article: 16392 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news2.acs.oakland.edu!server3.mich.com!pm001-17.dialip.mich.com!marrocco From: Sam Marrocco Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Snaking Objects Date: 9 Apr 1996 03:57:15 GMT Organization: mich.com, Inc., Farmington, Michigan Lines: 3 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kcn6r$hoc@server3.mich.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm001-17.dialip.mich.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.3_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:57:40 GMT I've pinned objects to paths in layout before, but is it possible to "automatically" snake an object along a motion path, thereby bending to object to the path as it moves along it? Article: 16393 From: ASanta-Pinter@ezin.net (Alex Santa-Pinter) Organization: Alex & Co. Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 04:44:31 GMT Subject: Re: framestore/cg troubles on toaster Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,rec.video.desktop X-Newsreader: Quarterdeck Message Center [1.0] References: Lines: 115 NNTP-Posting-Host: pool43.ezin.net Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news.ezin.net! Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16393 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:129955 rec.video.desktop:18888 Greg Kimnach writes: > this weekend some troubled cropped up with my a4000/vt4000/flyer system. the > trouble more than likely has something to do with the a4000/warp engine. > first off, my amiga system configuration is: > a4000 with buster rev11 > warp engine 3040 with two 32meg double sided simms > maxtor 1.6gig ide drive (system--including toaster/flyer s/w) > vt4000/flyer 4.1 > soundswitch Out of curiosity, what do you use the SoundSwitch if you're using a Flyer for Video/Audio input? > personal componenet adapter > all of this is in a highflyer expansion chassis > > and i have a toshiba 3401b (2x scsi cd-rom) in an external enclosure. the > flyer drives, tape > backup, video distribution amp, personal v-scope, and kitchen sync are housed > in a "flight > recorder" mid-tower case. Are these connected to the Warp Engine SCSI bus externally? > as for the problem which suddenly began on saturday: i cannot create a > framestore (cg page or > captured image from one of the toaster inputs). > > the cg renders and is saved, but trying to load it in a project (or just > double-clicking on its icon on > the ide system drive, where it is located) results in roughly the top 20% of > the fs loading. This is normally caused by having the wrong Max Transfer Rate set for your IDE hard drives on a A4000. Try changing it to : 0x1fe00 using HDToolbox. > a > second attempt causes the system to give me a guru error (didn't right down > the number for the > sw and task numbers). furthermore, i cannot load a fs cg page, which i > created, into toasterpaint. > the system locks up. same with a framestore that i capture from video. > > interestingly enough, none of this occurs with the flyer s/w supplied > framestores. i can load those > into tp or into the dv_ buffers. however, as i was trying to figure out what > was happening, i > loaded two of the flyer framestores (the vt and vt4000 logos) consecutively > into a project, > assigned them a duration of 15 seconds, and hit play. the following error > popped up: > > Problem discovered: > Possible unknown sequencing error > > Possible Solutions: > Check for SCSI cable/termination problems > Try voidall to alleviate possible head problems > Can also be caused by corrupt clip. > > now, keep in mind that these frames stores are on the ide system drive (not > scsi) and that the > flyer hard drives have been "freshly" formatted. so i digitized a video > sequence to one of the > video drives, and placed it between the two aforementioned croutons in the > project. > > fs [15sec] ==> video clip [15sec] ==> fs [15sec] > > this now plays! remove the video clip, and i get the error again. > > there is something amiss with either my flyer software, my a4000, or my > toaster/flyer hardware:-( If the mentioned change to the transfer rate doesn't do it, maybe a re-install of the Flyer software (including re-formatting drives) might help. Heck, I recommend it as a matter of course every so often just to completely get rid of old software junk, unused files and simple to "clean things up". I know, its radical, but after seeing some client's rats' nests in their hard drives, it is really simpler to do than try to organize their systems. Oops! I strayed from the subject... > > any ideas? > > thanks, > greg > > p.s. i have no trouble with key, scroll, and crawl pages. it seems to be > limited to my dv buffers > (framestores). > > p.p.s. i am going to replace the ide system drive with a scsi drive on the > w.e.3040. > Going to SCSI hard drives normally gets rid of the problem. However, you can still use the IDE you've got or install another by using the above mentioned Max Transfer Rate. The Warp Engine SCSI bus normally has no problems at all regarding this, you may however see little annoying things like having problems with devices at the end of your SCSI bus, removable devices not showing correctly sometimes or things to this effect. These are "normally" caused only by the wiring, not the controller (at least as far as we can tell). Good luck. ---- Thanks, Ciao! Alex ---------------------------------------------------- Your Full Service Amiga Source Since 1990:Alex & Co. Alex@ezin.net Oklahoma, USA 405-391-3333 Voice & Fax Check out our Webpages --> http://www.ezin.net/alex ---------------------------------------------------- Article: 16394 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: mhardi2720@aol.com (MHardi2720) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: My LW 4 Rev C keeps crashing Date: 9 Apr 1996 00:50:16 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 11 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kcqa8$grn@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: mhardi2720@aol.com (MHardi2720) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com My Lightwave 4.0 rev. C on Win95 keeps getting some memory page fault and kicks me out. This only happens under certain (and repetitive) conditions. I have a scene that I created that it refuses to render. I know its not the best looking animation, but does my PC have to crash it!!?! The same has happened under the Modeler when I used certain Truetype fonts. What the hell is going on? Is it Lightwave or Win95 that is the problem? Help! Mike Article: 16395 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!wrdis02.robins.af.mil!rcp6.elan.af.mil!newshub.nosc.mil!newshub.cts.com!cg57.esnet.com!torment!mad From: mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Help: Sound and LW Output? How to Sync A Message-ID: Date: 8 Apr 96 20:28:19 PST Organization: Tierra-Miga BBS Lines: 35 On Fri 5-Apr-1996 1:30a, Bill Hrgtn wrote: BH> > Does anyone know what is invloved with syncing audio, BH> >voice, music, sound effects whatever with Lightwave Animations? BH> >I currently use LW 4.0 Intel, and a DPS PAR board. I also have BH> >an old Sounds Blaster PRO. I currently output from the PAR to BH> >SVHS. BH> > Is there some way to get the PAR board to sync with some BH> >type of audio, perhaps WAV or VOC files? Does the Perception >do BH> >this? BH> Use the PAR VCR Windows player (not the main program) to sync audio with BH> animation files. Look under the Configure menu for "Device". Set your BH> sound association file and any off sync neccessary, and then save as a BH> project. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I to have been wonderring about how to do "sound/animation" syncing? Your answer to this guy just seemed a little too vague to me....I have the Perception and the capture card with it, but when I looked for what you spoke of, I found nothing. So I assume that the Par is a totally different beast,right? But either way, I have yet to see any tutorials on the subject. I sent some e-mail to john Gross quite awhile ago "about three months ago", asking about this subject with no response. I just have to come to the to the conclussion that, after reading all the different manuals and LW books, that no one really has a clue...........I'm not sure exactly what this guy may have wanted, but I know that what I am looking to learn how to do is actual sound syncing with charactor animation, i.e. timing the voices with the mouth movements and sounds of explossions timed with the explossion animation..... Well anyway, if you or someone actually knows of such a technigue, I sure that others would love to know how this is done just as badly as me......thanx .............md :) Article: 16396 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!wrdis02.robins.af.mil!rcp6.elan.af.mil!newshub.nosc.mil!newshub.cts.com!cg57.esnet.com!torment!mad From: mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Help: Sound and LW Output? How to Sync A Message-ID: Date: 8 Apr 96 20:34:27 PST Organization: Tierra-Miga BBS Lines: 38 On Fri 5-Apr-1996 10:03p, III wrote: I> In article <4k0kt2$a3h@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> mbc@po.cwru.edu (Michael B. I> Comet) writes: I> >From: mbc@po.cwru.edu (Michael B. Comet) I> >Subject: Help: Sound and LW Output? How to Sync Audio and Anim? I> >Date: 4 Apr 1996 14:04:18 GMT I> >Hi, I> > Does anyone know what is invloved with syncing audio, I> >voice, music, sound effects w >>>>>>>> I> What we do is capture the sound with a standard Sound Blaster type 16 bit I> audio card. We then display the .wav file and note the timing in 30 fps I> increments on a piece of note paper. Once you have done this, you can I> simply I> build your animation around the timing of the sound file. The PVR will I> make I> sure the .wav file starts on time. We have only used the PVR for I> synchronization that is less than 30 seconds. I don't know how the sync I> will I> hold up over time. I> I> Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com I> Studio 522 Productions |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber I> http://www.studio522.com |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm....I guess maybe I'll have to take back what I said about nobody having a clue on syncing sound to animations. This guy sounds like he's on to something...........md Article: 16397 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!pipeline!not-for-mail From: justin@nyc.pipeline.com (Michael Justin Austin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, Subject: Re: LW and Edge3D Date: 9 Apr 1996 01:49:26 -0400 Organization: Pipeline Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4kctp6$ri1@pipe11.nyc.pipeline.com> References: <3169C4E7.4CB5@pilot.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pipe11.nyc.pipeline.com X-PipeUser: justin X-PipeHub: nyc.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (Michael Austin) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 On Apr 08, 1996 22:01:11 in article , 'Bryant Reif ' wrote: Righto! >Michael Justin Austin wrote: > >> Because if it is not real time ray tracing then >> its just a toy :-) >> >> regards > >You're just joking here, right? >-- > >Bryant Reif >mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu >http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant Article: 16398 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!zombie.ncsc.mil!admaix.sunydutchess.edu!ub!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!msunews!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!hba From: imagine@h130.aone.net.au (Kevin Gleeson) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Now I'm confused... LIGHTWAVE 4.0 or 3D MAX? Date: Mon, 08 Apr 96 23:47:21 GMT Organization: Imagine It Lines: 73 Message-ID: <4kc8ee$943@news.mel.aone.net.au> References: <4kbif0$55q@newsflash.concordia.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: d40-1.cpe.hobart.aone.net.au X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 In article <4kbif0$55q@newsflash.concordia.ca>, jja_che@alcor.concordia.ca (Andy Chen) wrote: >I posted a while a back for a home animation studio hardware setup. The >software of choice is Lightwave 4.0 (Intel version). BUT now with all the >big yahoo.. I am getting a bit mixed up. > >I haven't actually used Lightwave (Amiga or PC) at all, but see how some >people handled it with ease. I take it as being a good animation program >because of its results for TV shows like B5, ST:Voyager, etc... But how does >it handles? > >I have used 3DS for quite sometime and gotten used to its rendering systems >and methods, BUT I didn't like its in capablility to do good lighting effects, >raytracing, and texture maping. > >I tried Calagari (a TINY bit) and didn't like the univeral 3D positioning of >items and stuff (get really confusing with various planes, etc). > >I am now going on the fact that "professionals" use other programs like >Lightwave, Alias and SoftImage for special effects in movies and stuff and >thereby those *should* be the better ones in comparison to 3DS or Caligari. > >Lightwave is used a lot for TV special effects and stuff (in comparison to >3DS), but 3DS is used probrably more for CAD design and stuff. Boy I am >getting myself more confused.... please help clear it up for me. > >Is Lightwave 4.0 that easy to use?(in comparison to 3DS) Don't want to blow >all my money away on something that I can't use. > >Argh, and would 3DS MAX work on the hardware configuration that I posted >before? (Perception card, Matrox vid card, NT O/S, 64 MB RAM, P166?) > >Thanks for any reply... > >Andy Chen >-- How does it handle ? I take that to mean the same as your later question, is it easy to use? The answer is yes. I started out on Imagine and bought Lightwave about a year ago. I watched Lee Stranahan's tapes at home at the weekend and did my first paying animation with the system 2 days later. (I must admit for a week or two I was modelling in Imagine, converting the models to LW and then setting up scenes and rendering them in LW.) It is VERY intuitive. I think this has come from it being packaged with the Toaster. The system would tend to end up in a heap of TV facilities where you didn't have the time to fiddle about with the interface or keep going to the manuals, it required a system that was quick and easy and could be operated by a stand-in if the normal 3D person was not there. (Correct me if my summation is wrong, anyone). My limited experience with 3D Studio showed me a powerful system that is harder to learn but gives great results. It has to be good as its been the de-facto standard for a long time (Yeah - OK apart from SoftImage and Alias, etc. but I'm talking in the world of real people's dollars, not the total income of Guatemala.) I think both sytems would have similar hardware requirements (unless Max wants extra.) and the above list looks fine to me. Hope that helps. Cheers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kevin Gleeson Imagine It 3D animation and graphics Hobart Tasmania Australia The Librarian Rules! - OOOK! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Article: 16399 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!zombie.ncsc.mil!admaix.sunydutchess.edu!ub!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!msunews!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!hba From: imagine@h130.aone.net.au (Kevin Gleeson) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Install Hware driver in NT4.0 Date: Mon, 08 Apr 96 23:54:32 GMT Organization: Imagine It Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4kc8rt$943@news.mel.aone.net.au> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: d40-1.cpe.hobart.aone.net.au X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 In article , ereality@kdcol.com wrote: >How do you install the hardware lock under NT4.0? I can't get it to >work. Every time I try to launch lightwave I get a message, "Cannot >initialize." > >Thanks > >ereality@kdcol.com OK - load your CD and go to the Win-nt directory. There is a program called setupx86.exe . Run it. Top left is a pull down menu called Install. It will ask you for your path (your CD) and install the sentinel. Cheers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kevin Gleeson Imagine It 3D animation and graphics Hobart Tasmania Australia The Librarian Rules! - OOOK! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Article: 16400 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: fwtep@earthlink.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 07:31:29 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <4k9l7r$dsv@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsu-la-13.earthlink.net X-Newsreader: Quarterdeck Message Center [2.00] On 4/7/96 5:05PM, in message <4k9l7r$dsv@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, VirtualBri wrote: > > Autodesk, by all accounts has responded to competition with one heck of a > program. Certainly not the be-all-end-all, but a serious tool. Now, it > is NewTek's turn to respond in kind. Will NewTek, with its problems of > delivering on time, be left standing when everyone takes a seat? I hope > not. > > --Brian > NewTek ALREADY HAS a serious tool. If you weren't one too you'd know that. -- -=Fred=- Article: 16401 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: fwtep@earthlink.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 08:03:22 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4k51m5$qtk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsu-la-13.earthlink.net X-Newsreader: Quarterdeck Message Center [2.00] Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34061 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16401 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14426 On 4/5/96 10:07PM, in message <4k51m5$qtk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Steph Greenberg wrote: > I certainly hope Newtek is seriously researching the competition. > Their interface and integration is definately behind the times, and the > excellent work being done with Lightwave is more an indication of sheer > determination by artists using it than by the excellence in design of the > program. Forgive my bluntness, but I think you are an idiot. Could it be that the artists using Lightwave actually LIKE the interface about 1000000 times better than that *amazing* DOS interface that 3DS has? > > Like, why are layout and modeling still separate? Where are the NURBS? > Where's the multi-target deformation, GL shading or equivalent *in the > Layout* module, editing of slope with tangents in the animation editor, > user definable hot keys, interactive lighting, expressions usable in > Layout, integration with the renderer in Layout, etc? Is 5.0 going to go > that far? MAX is in lotsa hands right now, I know quite a few people in > Hollywood with it. I'll bet only a handful are on 5.0 beta, and then it > goes into pre-release, the stage MAX is in now and has been for well over > a month. If you don't know what you're talking about, shut up. Why must you assume that Lightwave has none of these features? Do I go around bashing 3DS 4 assuming that there will be no significant improvements in MAX? For crying out loud, can't you wait one more measly week before mindlessly bashing Lightwave? If you want to bet that Lightwave 5 is only in a handful of hands right now, I'll take you up on that; how much do you want to lose? > > I wish Newtek good luck, since I'd certainly go with a program equal to > MAX at less than half the price. I'm just a little skeptical, and with > damned good reason, of Newtek and their early product announcements. > Would you go with a program that's better than MAX for less than half the price? If so, you might want to check into Lightwave. By the way, MAX was announced one year ago. How's that for an early product announcement? Animator Studio (2D) was delayed for over 8 months. Now that the initial port of Lightwave is done, it's FAR less of an effort to make improvements. I am fully confident that NewTek can meet whatever release date they set for Lightwave. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > Steph Greenberg "Whenever I truly think something can't be > steph@primenet.com done, that is when I redouble my efforts to > prove myself wrong." > I think there are a lot of cool things in MAX, in fact, I thought they were cool way back when Lightwave introduced them. -- -=Fred=- Article: 16402 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: marcmylar@aol.com (MarcMylar) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek@NAB Date: 9 Apr 1996 04:41:21 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 12 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kd7rh$kbk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <31680982.B8C@erinet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <31680982.B8C@erinet.com>, Andrew Hofman writes: >I think he was referring to a flat *square*. "Be there or be a cube" sounds >dumb. > How about: "Be there or be rhomboidal"... -Marc Article: 16403 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news2.acs.oakland.edu!beacon.synthcom.com!hermes.rdrop.com!nesbbx!DwightG Subject: Re: LW 4.0 upgrade for amiga/toaster? Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave X-Newsreader: BBX-UMB-Legacy From: DwightG@nesbbx.rain.COM (Dwight Gruber) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 19:41:18 PST Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System Lines: 21 > > Video Toaster 4.1 for the standalone Toaster is now in production. Shipments > should commence in the next week. > > ****************************************************************************** > * Chuck Baker * TekWorld: NewTek Tech Support BBS * > * Technical Support Online Services * telnet address: bbs.newtek.com * > * NewTek, Inc. * modem ports: 913-271-9299 * > *============================================================================* > * >>>> TekWorld is a public message tech support venue <<<< * > * >>>> For Email tech support send to: Tech@newtek.com <<<< * > ****************************************************************************** OK, so what do I have to do to get it? --DwightG -- DwightG@nesbbx.rain.COM Article: 16404 Path: news2.cais.com!news From: root Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95,alt.2600,alt.26 Subject: Re: HOW TO DO A BATCH HTTP FILE DOWNLOAD hybridv=putz Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 02:11:56 -0700 Organization: Capital Area Internet Service, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <316A29DC.513163C@osiris.net> References: <315df4e7.30083078@nntp.loop.com> <31601c49.6539557@news.compuserve.com> <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com> <3161a179.438764@news.earthlink.net> <4k5bvp$d28@usenet7.interramp.com> <3169CEF7.3FD79FB8@outer.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm2-9.pacificnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.1 i486) Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34063 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16404 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:13458 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14428 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x:1394 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95:7736 alt.26 sudraka@outer.com wrote: > > >shut the FUCK up loser... Win95 Does better multitasking then os/2 by > >far obviously you have either a shitty computer or you just suck... > > > >i can run 3d studio, 2 versions of netscape, 2 versions of agent, and > >adobe premiere 4.2 all at the same time with no noticble slow down or > >crashes... therefor you dont know how to fucking setup your computer > >or your just a dumbass... > > > >HybridV > > > > {sniff sniff} Do you smell something? Bullshit? These kinds of posts kill me. "I can run 2 versions of TruSpace, rendering a 1500 frame avi while simaltaneously taking down 4 FTP sites, 2 IRC channels, 5 Telnet sessions and Running AutoCad, all while port scanning an entire Class B set of addresses." Almost always, these characters are using Windows 95 with an amazing 8 megs of ram. You notice how they never say "I can compile a C++ program that encompasses 300,000 lines of code while formatting a disk" or some such nonsense? Lame. How come the guys at att.research.com can kick the ass of anyone with 95 and 64 megs of ram? Do you know why? I know why. That's why they're AT&T. These characters need to get a *real* operating system. Until then, they're just drinking Mountain Dew. :-) Article: 16405 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!neoucom.edu!news.ysu.edu!news.ecn.uokno From: per swantesson Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: 1000+free 3d mpdels! Date: 9 Apr 1996 08:44:55 GMT Organization: Ericsson Software Technology Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4kd827$5m@erinews.ericsson.se> References: <3169FAF0.143F@tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rypc50.ericsson.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Solo wrote: >For serious 3d Studio animators only. >!!! e-mail us your request for FREE DEMO now!!! > >For limited time download any and all models >and motion paths from any and all versions of >the Viewpoint dataset CD-Rom ver. 1.xx, 2.xx >for only $99.95 > >We guarantee that you’ll love the product. >Free demo will allow you to download 2 free >models (in case you don’t believe us). > I'm interested Per Swantesson Ericsson Software Soft Center 372 25 Ronneby Sweden Article: 16406 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news From: Jeff Jasper Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 06:47:08 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 47 Message-ID: <316A402C.572E@osu.edu> References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4k51m5$qtk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: jasper.7@osu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: slip5-5.acs.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0B2 (WinNT; I) Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34064 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16406 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14431 > > I certainly hope Newtek is seriously researching the competition. > > Their interface and integration is definately behind the times, and the > > excellent work being done with Lightwave is more an indication of sheer > > determination by artists using it than by the excellence in design of the > > program. > > Forgive my bluntness, but I think you are an idiot. Could it be that the > artists using Lightwave actually LIKE the interface about 1000000 times better > than that *amazing* DOS interface that 3DS has? No you look like a blathering idiot with your mindless attack. The poor guy said nothing of turning Lightwave's interface into a DOS one or into 3DS's UI. > If you don't know what you're talking about, shut up. Why must you assume that > Lightwave has none of these features? Do I go around bashing 3DS 4 assuming > that there will be no significant improvements in MAX? For crying out loud, > can't you wait one more measly week before mindlessly bashing Lightwave? If > you want to bet that Lightwave 5 is only in a handful of hands right now, I'll > take you up on that; how much do you want to lose? Many were not features of Lightwave 4, but may be in 5. But he wasn't talking about 5 now was he. He wasn't bashing, just pointing out some nice features Lightwave could use. > Would you go with a program that's better than MAX for less than half the > price? If so, you might want to check into Lightwave. By the way, MAX was > announced one year ago. How's that for an early product announcement? > Animator Studio (2D) was delayed for over 8 months. Now that the initial port > of Lightwave is done, it's FAR less of an effort to make improvements. I am > fully confident that NewTek can meet whatever release date they set for > Lightwave. I will when I see one, and so far I have not. A year or 8 months is nothing, where is that PC Toaster? NewTek isn't very well known for making products that come out on time. How bad do you think people would have been bitching if the wouldn't have gotten their grubby little hands on Prerelease 4.0. > I think there are a lot of cool things in MAX, in fact, I thought they were > cool way back when Lightwave introduced them. Yeah like full interactive rendering throughout the program, particles, IK with joint constraints, sound synch, unlimted object stacks, etc. Wait those are not yet features in Lightwave that were introduced by MAX. It goes both ways you see. Jeff PS-relax it's only software Article: 16407 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: wmendez@ix.netcom.com(William A. Mendez ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: New feature/Wish Date: 8 Apr 1996 21:39:43 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4kc12v$pph@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> References: <4kbes6$sco@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kbhd8$t7e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-nyc22-07.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Apr 08 4:39:43 PM CDT 1996 Hello, Is there a way to control the glow for seperate objects in a scene, I don't see any other way than in the effects panel. If not can an evelope feature be added to the surfaces panel next to glow that way each surface has it's own glow attribute. Thanks! Will Mendez Article: 16408 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!lantana.singnet.com.sg!usenet From: Eddie Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Problem trying to get a smooth animation path in LW Date: 9 Apr 1996 11:36:14 GMT Organization: CyberTech Productions Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4kdi3e$u7b@lantana.singnet.com.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts900-1118.singnet.com.sg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) I've always been very frustrated with LW's spline animation path. I'm rarely able to get a smooth path, even after adjusting tensions and velocity, or maybe adding or moving keyframes in motion envelopes. Sometines after all the adjustment whrn I get a farely smooth animation, it rarely turns out to be what I wanted in a first place. Does anyone have a sure fire way technique that does the job? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks! Eddie Quah Article: 16409 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!panix!not-for-mail From: vector@panix.com (Charles Sung Lee) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: HELP! Need lightwave plug-in code/docs... HELP! Date: 9 Apr 1996 08:48:46 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4kdmbe$n8o@panix3.panix.com> References: <4kcb8h$3bb@pacific.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jason M. Cahill (jcahill@pacific.ics.uci.edu) wrote: : I just bought a copy of Lightwave a few days back, and ever since have been : trying to log on to ftp.newtek.com (and the alternate). Neither of these : are running, and I need a copy of the plug-in SDK. Can someone with this : file(s) please email it to me, or better yet, give me a non-NewTek FTP : site address with this software. Much thanks! Jason, I think the SDKs are on the CD (the installer doesn't install them.) o===============================o=======================================o |: _ _ _ _ :| Charles Lee, Animator In Chief | |:. \\// \\// .:| vector@panix.com | |:::...\/ ector \/ isions...:::| Tel: (212)684-5888 Fax: (212)684-7802 | o-------------------------------o WWW page: http://www.panix.com/~vector| | A Lightwave 3D Rendering Farm | The Unofficial Beretta 92FS page | o===============================o=======================================o Article: 16410 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!cs.utk.edu!gaia.ns.utk.edu!usenet From: brad prosise Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: I screwed up, Help! Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 09:02:49 -0400 Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville Lines: 31 Message-ID: <316A5FF9.26AD@UTK.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: bike.ips.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) I have been running LW 4.0 on my P90 with 16 megs of ram dual booting win95 and winnt. Recently I had a big job that required more hard drive space than I had so I used drivespace3 on my drives knowing that I would invalidate windowNT in doing so. Now, I know a lot of you guys think that NT is really great, but, on my machine it was really unstable (just not enough ram) and not fully functional with my periferals. I only used it for the slight speed increase in rendering time. So since the rev c of lightwave is out and rendering with win 95 is more consistant with NT I decided to drop NT alltogether. Well, NT does not take kindly to being deleted. I think I have finally gotten rid of most of the gremlins but one still hangs around to haunt me. Its that stupid winNT/dos selection screen from the NT boot up dialogue. Now I had the 2 operating systems on separate hard drives so when I deleted NT from 1 drive it only left 95 to operate from on the other hard drive. I have even tried reloading Win95 whic was also a mistake because it some how found an interupt problem between my scsi zip and my parralel port backup that worked fine before. AND I STILL GET THE DAMN SELECTION SCREEEN. I know this may be somewhat offtopic and I may get flame but I have found that the more knowledgable in the group are somewhat forgiving of us psuedo-professional hobbyists. Thanks for any help you can give me. -- STOLEN PITHY QUOTE: Heaven is where the cooks are French, the lovers are Italian, the police are English, the mechanics are all Germans, and the whole thing is organized by the Swiss. In hell, the cooks are all English, the lovers are Swiss, the police are German, the mechanics are French, and the whole thing is run by the Italians. Brad Prosise Visit my web site the URL is - http://users.aol.com/bprosise/private/bike.htm Article: 16411 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!po.cwru.edu!mbc From: mbc@po.cwru.edu (Michael B. Comet) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Snaking Objects Date: 9 Apr 1996 13:19:45 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 37 Message-ID: <4kdo5h$qi2@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <4kcn6r$hoc@server3.mich.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sushi.ins.cwru.edu X-Newsreader: CWRU GnomeNews for Windows In a previous article Sam Marrocco said: > I've pinned objects to paths in layout before, but is it possible to > "automatically" snake an object along a motion path, thereby bending to > object to the path as it moves along it? I don't think you can just automatically do this. However I think you might be able to cheat by using the method described in a LWPro article a few months back. The article described how to do tank treads. What you can try is to model your snake object straight. The set up bones in Layout for your snake bent. However set up bones past the front of the snake bending as well. Basically the bones are the "path" the snake will follow. Now in modeler save the copy of the snake but also save a second copy offset by some amount such that it has moved forward. (ie: if you snake faces in the +Z direction save a copy where it has been moved some amount in +z). Now in Layout morph from the original snake into the moved one. What should happen is as it moves forward the bones keep deforming it. The result is it wiggles down the path. I am not 100% sure that this will work. This might also be useful for setting up those little arrow type objects you see in machine renderings or for say making paper roll through a 3D copy machine. mbc -- | Michael B. Comet - mbc@po.cwru.edu | http://inswww.ins.cwru.edu/php/comet/ | LW FAQ, 3D Graphics & Animation and more! Article: 16412 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95,alt.2600,alt.bi Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!blaze.trentu.ca!IVORY.trentu.ca!DTANNER From: dtanner@ivory.trentu.ca Subject: Re: HOW TO DO A BATCH HTTP FILE DOWNLOAD X-Nntp-Posting-Host: trentu.ca Message-ID: Sender: news@blaze.trentu.ca (USENET News System) Reply-To: dtanner@ivory.trentu.ca Organization: Trent University, Peterborough References: <315df4e7.30083078@nntp.loop.com> <31601c49.6539557@news.compuserve.com> <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com> <3161a179.438764@news.earthlink.net> <316739ae.18791819@129.10.1.13> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:27:12 GMT Lines: 23 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34068 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16412 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:13470 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14435 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x:1396 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95:7746 alt.26 In article <316739ae.18791819@129.10.1.13>, From: writes: >At exactly Tue, 02 Apr 1996 21:54:41 GMT, the user known as hybridv, >hybridv wrote: >[relevant discussion snipped] > >---shut the FUCK up loser... Win95 Does better multitasking then os/2 >by >---far obviously you have either a shitty computer or you just suck... >--- >---i can run 3d studio, 2 versions of netscape, 2 versions of agent, >and >---adobe premiere 4.2 all at the same time with no noticble slow down >or >---crashes... therefor you dont know how to fucking setup your >computer >---or your just a dumbass... >--- >---HybridV >--- >Maybe you would do better by running Mario teaches typing and MS >Bookshelf at the same time. Go skip your high school study hall and >get hooked on phonics dickhead. Bravo! Article: 16413 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.thorn.net!usenet From: Christopher S Carpentier Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: 60,000 point limit? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 10:07:55 -0400 Organization: CCG MetaMedia, Inc. Lines: 4 Message-ID: <316A6F3B.5348@ccgmetamedia.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.25.179.162 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Depending on your RAM. I just rendered a scene with over 200,000 polygons which I'm sure had about that number in points. I'm using a system with 64mg of RAM so you get an idea of the memory needed to support such volumes of stuff Article: 16414 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.thorn.net!usenet From: Christopher S Carpentier Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: HELP!! Lightwave can't use MSVCRT20.DLL!!! Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 10:19:02 -0400 Organization: CCG MetaMedia, Inc. Lines: 2 Message-ID: <316A71D6.6244@ccgmetamedia.com> References: <4jokqo$lfi@acmex.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.25.179.162 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Try moving the MSVCRT20.DLL file to your C:\Windows\system dir. see if that works... Article: 16415 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: Elliot Bain Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Dongle Failure Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 21:58:30 -0400 Organization: Laurell Creative Services Lines: 35 Message-ID: <3169C446.3D7@ix.netcom.com> References: <31680b1f.6347577@news.digex.net> <4kc6g3$7cu@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-col6-13.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Apr 08 6:56:25 PM PDT 1996 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (WinNT; I) GKeenan818 wrote: > > Well, after reading about the reliability of the dongle I've just had one > of mine drop dead in front of me! > > I ran the new modeller patch, ran the new modeller and then the program > reported that the dongle was not there. Thinking that there was some kind > of screw up in the patch, I installed everything again and still got the > same problem. After using one of my other dongles in the machine, the > software kicked in without any problems! > > So..... let's see how long it will take for NewTek to replace my dongle > (in the United Kingdom), and also how much I'm going to be stung in > shipping. A report will appear here if anything interesting happens..... All dongles do is penalize legitimate users. As we read about stories of failed devices, week after week, it almost becomes a death watch, wondering whose will go next. Beat your chests all you want, Newtek apologists. By now there are probably more people using cracked versions of Lightwave than registered users. Who has been inconvenienced? There is NO way to stop determined crackers, and once they've done their deed, their results speed around the globe quicker than you can get Newtek customer support on the line, complaining of a defective dongle. Some people may take comfort in the reports that only a small percentage fail, but if you've had a failure, your failure rate is 100%. I, personally have bought two copies, and therefore have two dongles. I wish I could have bought more memory, instead. -- Elliot Bain Laurell Creative Services 614.459.4404 Article: 16416 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshub.csu.net!csun.edu!hbrtv284 From: hbrtv284@csun.edu (emmanuel olympia) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: using photoshop o make textures for lw Date: 9 Apr 1996 16:20:07 GMT Organization: California State University, Northridge Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4ke2nn$frj@dewey.csun.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: louie.csun.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I just got photoshop to make textures for lw objects, what is a good book for a beginner to learn photoshop. one with lots of tutorials, etc. do they make video tutorials like they do for lightwave. also, is there a photoshop newsgroup? thx. emmanuel Article: 16417 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!nctuccca.edu.tw!voyager.iii.org.tw!mccoy_pc From: dan@acti.com (Daniel J. McCoy) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: 95 InterFace for NT ! Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 16:33:15 GMT Organization: ACT Networks, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <4ke30b$meb@voyager.iii.org.tw> References: <4im2l4$3j0@news.voicenet.com> <31511499.1D91@xs4all.nl> <4ircah$5el@irk.zetnet.co.uk> <3158CD73.44E2@cyberportal.net> <3159CC0F.739A@cats.ucsc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: shts.seed.net.tw X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 In article , zimmerma@chapman.edu (Dan Zimmerman) wrote: [snip] >Somebody here posted that everything works fine under the new shell but the >Perception software. I have the same problem/experience. Does anybody have a >workaround (other than using both versions)? For the most part, what I end up doing is rendering to my harddrive. Once the final frame is done, I just create a new project/directory on the PVR's "P:" drive in an appropriate directory via the Newshell (though I'm running NT 4.0 beta) and copy the files from the harddrive to the directory I just created. The PVR happily converts each frame and then I use the PVR viewer to view the animation. I'm not in front of my system with the PVR so the exact steps may not match. I do know this has worked and I was planning on pumping out some program that waited for a frame to be written and then automatically copied to the P: drive and the original file deleted for cases where you don't want to dedicate a heck of a lot of drive space for the frames (which is why we bought PVRs too. :) ). Have fun, Dan -- Daniel J. McCoy - djmccoy@pacificnet.net or dan@acti.com WWW - http://www.pacificnet.net/~djmccoy Article: 16418 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.iadfw.net!usenet From: Lance Gray Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop,rec.video.production,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: TPaint bug?!? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 11:43:55 -0700 Organization: Empire Productions Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <316AAFEB.4BA8@airmail.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dal13-22.ppp.iadfw.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; U) Xref: news2.cais.com rec.video.desktop:18916 rec.video.production:40963 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16418 There's a bug in TPaint that has irritated me for quite some time...NewTek made mention of it at their NewTek University classes last summer. It happens when you cut out a brush and then try to Texture Map it with SOLID selected---it won't work! W/O SOLID selected...you get the outlines, but this doesn't really help if you want the entire image! Granted, this begins to happen after you cut out about 2 brushes...it never happens on the first?!? I usually have to shut down TPaint and start over. Anyone know a better solution---NewTek told some solution last year, but I have since forgotten it. All of this is referring to TPaint 4.1 running 0n a Flyer system! Please help! -Lance <>< ________________________________________________________________________ Lance Gray (empire@airmail.net) **25 GIG Flyer & PC LightWave equipped** "If you are insulted because of the name of CHRIST, you are blessed, for the spirit of GOD rests on you." 1 Peter 14 ________________________________________________________________________ Article: 16419 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshub.csu.net!csun.edu!hbrtv284 From: hbrtv284@csun.edu (emmanuel olympia) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: FS:toaster a4000/040-$3000.00 Date: 9 Apr 1996 16:27:27 GMT Organization: California State University, Northridge Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4ke35f$hle@dewey.csun.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: louie.csun.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Video Toaster system for sale I am migrating to a pentium system and need to sell my Amiga 4000 Video Toaster system. Here are the specs: HARDWARE: A4000/040 16 mb Ram 1 gig Quantum hard drive 14" 1084s monitor mouse & keyboard SOFTWARE: Video Toaster 3.1/Lightwave 3.5(all manuals included) Brilliance Dpaint 5 Scala 4000 ADPro Total price: $3000.00(not including shipping charges) Pls. call ASAP. First come first serve. (213) 669-1196 Emmanuel Olympia Article: 16420 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: nanook@sound.net (Nanook of the South) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Where is the FTP site? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 16:45:57 GMT Organization: I'm totaly disorganized! Lines: 20 Message-ID: <316a941d.587270516@news.sound.net> References: <4kbh1c$bdf@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Reply-To: nanook@sound.net NNTP-Posting-Host: psycho.sound.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 mcohen@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mark A Cohen) wrote: >Has anyone had problems getting to Newtek's FTP site? Is it still >ftp.newtek.com? Is there anywhere else that I can download Rev. C for >Intel? If you have trouble getting into ftp.newtek.com, try ftp.sound.net. We mirror everything every night (might as well, it's in my office!) L8r G8r Keith +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | No! That light at the end of the tunnel is NOT a train! | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sound.Net is the premier Internet provider in the KC area. | | Our fees are only $10/month and include full slip/ppp access | | for 540 hours/month. For more information call our office | | at 816-436-5206 or send mail to support@sound.net | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ Article: 16421 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: afrerking@aol.com (AFrerking) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: DYNAMIC REALITIES @ NAB Date: 9 Apr 1996 12:47:56 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 11 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4ke4bs$qdn@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Just to let everyone that is interested know, we will be displaying our LightWave products at Deskstation's booth (M4570 in the Sands) at NAB. Products we will be showing include the much anticipated Particle Storm (which will ship shortly after NAB), Impact!, and Lock & Key by Meme-X (planned to ship end of April). Andy Dynamic Realities http://members.aol.com/dynreal Article: 16422 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!zetnet.co.uk!usenet From: terry.hill@zetnet.co.uk (Terry Hill) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Help with output to VHS required... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:41:02 +0100 Lines: 40 Message-ID: <4ke79s$vdj@irk.zetnet.co.uk> References: <4k3kov$dtl$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: victoria.zetnet.co.uk In message <4k3kov$dtl$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> James Osborne <100706.3126@CompuServe.COM> writes: > Hi! > I have just completed the scene file for a pretty cool > (BIG) animation (for my Demo Reel) but I now need some advice on > how best to go about transferring this (and future anims) to VHS > tape. I really need to keep the cost to a minimum (no surprise > there). > Anyhow I currently have a P120 with 32Mb, 1Gb IDE HD, and a > Stealth GT 2mb Vram card. I guess I will need a big, fast (scsi > AV?) HD and an output card of some kind. > Has anybody got any ideas. The Fast F60 MJPEG card sounds okay > but is this the only option? There are a few options. Firstly you could try to source a second hand card such as the par. If you do have enough to but a new card then the new MIRO 20 is supposed to be worth a look (i`m thinking of getting one myself). There is always the option of asking someone else to do the recording for you. Where are you based? - i`m sure there`s someone reading this in your area who will do the job for a reasonable fee. I know of a company in Devon, England that may help. AMT Multimedia +44 01271 326986. Give them a ring and see what they say. Do you have access to any storage media that you can send the anim on? If the anim is huge then you will need to get a DAT drive or something similar, but check with the company first. You`ll be amazed at what some companies will do to help out if you explain yourself clearly. I still think the second hand par is the best approach though. Cheers, -- Tel terry.hill@zetnet.co.uk Article: 16423 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: using photoshop o make textures for lw Date: 9 Apr 1996 13:45:03 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 12 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4ke7mv$rij@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4ke2nn$frj@dewey.csun.edu> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Well, this is an advance announcement, but we're going to be announcing a Photoshop For Video tutorial tape at NAB... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16424 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news From: Bryant Reif Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: using photoshop o make textures for lw Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 14:56:51 -0400 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: <316AB2F3.5FC7@pilot.msu.edu> References: <4ke2nn$frj@dewey.csun.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cnc045153.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) emmanuel olympia wrote: > > I just got photoshop to make textures for lw objects, what is a good book > for a beginner to learn photoshop. one with lots of tutorials, etc. do > they make video tutorials like they do for lightwave. also, is there a > photoshop newsgroup? > > thx. > > emmanuel Photoshop 3.0 comes with a book labeled "Adobe Photoshop Tutorial". This and the manual would be a great place to start. -- Bryant Reif mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant Article: 16425 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: Jason@newtek.com (Jason Linhart) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 18:25:44 GMT Organization: NewTek Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4ke9vi$eqj@guitar.sound.net> References: <151405@cup.portal.com> <4k3n0i$hfh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kbcbr$5qi@homer.alpha.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: miami.newtek.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 syndesis@inc.net (John Foust) wrote: >In article <4k3n0i$hfh@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, stranahan@aol.com says... >> >>The PC Toaster was a 'smoking mirrors' product, as I've mentioned before. >>I don't think 'Phoenix' will ever ship - it just doesn't make any sense >>with the advent of DVC camcorders and better quality non-linear systems >>that are cheaper. >That's "smoke and mirrors." And I wrote the software for the PC Toaster >in Visual BASIC, connecting an Amiga Toaster under the table to a PC >via the serial port, sending ARexx commands from the PC when you clicked >its "croutons" and it won one of those crystal awards from COMDEX, >as the "best new product" or something like that. It's in the >NewTek museum. >- John I'm afraid that I'll have to clarify a few things on this matter. John is speaking of a "ToasterLink" like product that was for the PC instead of the Mac. It was a simple control device that controled an Amiga based Toaster from a PC, much the same way our ToasterLink product controlled a Macintosh. On the other hand, the "TOASTER FOR WINDOWS" is a completely self sufficient box. At the demo last year, the box ran by itself without an Amiga. Jason Linhart Article: 16426 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!lamarck.sura.net!jolt.jea.com!usenet From: goddard@jax.jaxnet.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Lightwave Objects- Babylon 5 "Shadow ship" Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 21:28:57 GMT Organization: Jacksonville Electric Authority Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4kea8m$gkn@jolt.jea.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 161.243.4.32 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I am looking for a lightwave object of one of the Shadow ships from Babylon 5. If you know where I can locate one or some of the rest of the spaceships used on the TV show, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks..... Article: 16427 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!news2.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: qualunqu@ix.netcom.com(frank & Michele) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio Subject: PRIMEAU PRODUCTIONS DOESNT PAY FREE LANCE ARTISTS Date: 9 Apr 1996 17:01:46 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 2 Message-ID: <4ke55q$9e3@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <4k6cjb$cbt@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kaa05$dmu@cloner3.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: war-mi1-09.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Apr 09 12:01:46 PM CDT 1996 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34079 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16427 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14447 BE carefull of primeau productions in southfield mi ... You wont get paid ...frank Article: 16428 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gkeenan818@aol.com (GKeenan818) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Dongle Failure Date: 9 Apr 1996 14:58:16 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 13 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kec08$t5o@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3169C446.3D7@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader I don't want to start another discussion on the pro's and con's of using a 'cracked' version of LightWave, even though I do understand some peoples points of view on the matter. Even so, my distributor has informed me (I am a dealer by the way) that the amount of faulty dongles being returned is increasing at an alarming rate. I am told that the turnaround on getting a new dongle is around 2 months, and if this is the case I can guarantee you that I am going to be rather annoyed.... Once again, I am waiting for some feedback from NewTek on this matter and another day has went by...... Article: 16429 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: Jason@newtek.com (Jason Linhart) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 18:59:43 GMT Organization: NewTek Lines: 33 Message-ID: <4kebv8$gg2@guitar.sound.net> References: <4kbes6$sco@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kbhd8$t7e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: miami.newtek.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) wrote: >cropped< >This is (honestly) the first I've heard of this. NewTek has been accused >of doing this sort of thing before - I've had people SWEAR the original >Flyer demo wasn't real, but I KNOW it was. >If it is true that the PC Toaster demo was a -complete- sham - and it >sounds like it is, considering the source....very very disturbing. >other stuff cropped< Quite a few of you were at NAB last year and saw the box being held above the heads of our demo people while it was playing video. The box was not connected in any way to an Amiga. I think I even saw the box with cover off at one time so that everyone could look inside to see the hardware. The box was also shown at a number of other shows last year. I would think that during this period of time, if it were all 'smoke and mirrors', or 'smoking mirrors' (take your pick) someone would have noticed. The product John was talking about was a 'ToasterLink' like product for the PC. I invite all of you that are going to NAB this year to stop by the booth again and check out the products that we are showing. Jason Linhart Article: 16430 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gkeenan818@aol.com (GKeenan818) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Dongle Failure Date: 9 Apr 1996 15:07:48 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 13 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4keci4$80@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3169C446.3D7@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader I don't want to start another discussion on the pro's and con's of using a 'cracked' version of LightWave, even though I do understand some peoples points of view on the matter. Even so, my distributor has informed me (I am a dealer by the way) that the amount of faulty dongles being returned is increasing at an alarming rate. I am told that the turnaround on getting a new dongle is around 2 months, and if this is the case I can guarantee you that I am going to be rather annoyed.... Once again, I am waiting for some feedback from NewTek on this matter and another day has went by...... Article: 16431 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gkeenan818@aol.com (GKeenan818) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Dongle Failure Date: 9 Apr 1996 15:10:38 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 13 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kecne$a9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3169C446.3D7@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader I don't want to start another discussion on the pro's and con's of using a 'cracked' version of LightWave, even though I do understand some peoples points of view on the matter. Even so, my distributor has informed me (I am a dealer by the way) that the amount of faulty dongles being returned is increasing at an alarming rate. I am told that the turnaround on getting a new dongle is around 2 months, and if this is the case I can guarantee you that I am going to be rather annoyed.... Once again, I am waiting for some feedback from NewTek on this matter and another day has went by...... Article: 16432 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!news.cc.ic.ac.uk!usenet From: adam@oar.vmg.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Record Turntable object wanted! Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 20:31:01 +0100 Organization: Imperial College, London, UK Lines: 12 Message-ID: <316ABAF5.456B@oar.vmg.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: long-john.vmg.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) I need a record turntable object for a DJ's web page I'm doing. Lightwave format preferred, but almost anything would be useful. I've had no luck finding one on the net, if anyone can help out please e-mail me today! Thanks & riches will be yours! daveb@long-john.vmg.co.uk Sorry for the bandwidth, now back to you regular programme... Thanks Article: 16433 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!panix!not-for-mail From: vector@panix.com (Charles Sung Lee) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: 60,000 point limit? Date: 9 Apr 1996 16:01:05 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4kefm1$kpj@panix3.panix.com> References: <316A6F3B.5348@ccgmetamedia.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Christopher S Carpentier (Carpentier@ccgmetamedia.com) wrote: : Depending on your RAM. I just rendered a scene with over 200,000 : polygons which I'm sure had about that number in points. I'm using a : system with 64mg of RAM so you get an idea of the memory needed to : support such volumes of stuff There's a 65,536 point limit on a single object. No limit for layout was listed concerning points. I wonder what the max poly/point count is for Layout? None perhaps? My record poly count was in the neighborhood of 400,000 (tropomyosin proteins in a "double-diamond" crystal formation.) By booting my 38MB A3000T in a _bare_ configuration (without workbench!), I barely managed to render the scene in either high or print resolution. (I couldn't get VMM to work with my Mercury 040.) (Oh yes, and the segment size was tiny! I think it was the minimal 200K.) Now, I'm going to walk over and give my 64MB Alpha a hug :) o===============================o=======================================o |: _ _ _ _ :| Charles Lee, Animator In Chief | |:. \\// \\// .:| vector@panix.com | |:::...\/ ector \/ isions...:::| Tel: (212)684-5888 Fax: (212)684-7802 | o-------------------------------o WWW page: http://www.panix.com/~vector| | A Lightwave 3D Rendering Farm | The Unofficial Beretta 92FS page | o===============================o=======================================o Article: 16434 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!marbls.enet.dec.com!leimberger From: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: B5 spaceship design Date: 9 Apr 1996 20:05:28 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 20 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kefu8$71@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <3168260e.74703827@news.pinc.com> Reply-To: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () NNTP-Posting-Host: marbls.enet.dec.com |>If you want to be blown away by a ship model take a look at: |> |>http://www.free.cts.com/sd/c/corvine/ |> |>Unfortunately it was done with 3D Studio (but that makes no |>difference. It's the artist that makes the difference) |><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> |> Ivan Sinclair - ics@pinc.com |>Softwords Research - http://vvv.com/ |><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> |> Been there saw that! Very impressive. Only problem is my web software would not show all the pics. The scenes are pretty dark so I had a hard time seeign a lot of the detail. I'll have to try again. The gun turrets reminded me of the mother ship in the RoboTech series. overall though it is really nice. -bill Article: 16435 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: chuck@bbs.newtek.com (Chuck Baker) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 15:46:21 Organization: NewTek Technical Support Lines: 43 Distribution: world Message-ID: <19960409.7983618.E1F2@bbs.newtek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.newtek.com On Mon 8-Apr-1996 15:46 , John Foust wrote: JF> In article <4k3n0i$hfh@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, stranahan@aol.com says... JF> > JF> >The PC Toaster was a 'smoking mirrors' product, as I've mentioned before. JF> >I don't think 'Phoenix' will ever ship - it just doesn't make any sense JF> >with the advent of DVC camcorders and better quality non-linear systems JF> >that are cheaper. JF> That's "smoke and mirrors." And I wrote the software for the PC Toaster JF> in Visual BASIC, connecting an Amiga Toaster under the table to a PC JF> via the serial port, sending ARexx commands from the PC when you clicked JF> its "croutons" and it won one of those crystal awards from COMDEX, JF> as the "best new product" or something like that. It's in the JF> NewTek museum. JF> - John Uh, what?! John, this could give the impression that you had done coding for the "Video Toaster for Windows", which we demoed at last year's NAB, and that it was a mockup rather than a functioning unit, neither of which was the case. To clarify for those who aren't aware of the history, John Foust, who has done a whole lot for NewTek over the years, some acknowledged and some not, did the programming for a PC "ToasterLink" type product, which was simply a PC hooked via serial connect to a "Video Toaster", really a complete Amiga system equipped with a Video Toaster and our patented "Hide-That-Commodore-Logo" stick-on label. Our product team did not follow through on bringing the product to release. We did release the SCSI-based Mac-To-(Whups, don't let 'em find out it's an Amiga!)Video Toaster version of ToasterLink. This early "PC Toasterlink" should not be confused with the "Video Toaster for Windows", which is progressing well, with a number of changes to account for current progress in the state of video technology, nor with "Phoenix", which is something else entirely, and is also progressing well. ======================================================================== Chuck Baker | TekWorld: NewTek Tech Support BBS Technical Support Online Services | telnet address: bbs.newtek.com NewTek, Inc. | modem ports: 913-271-9299 ======================================================================== CompuServe: Go AmigaVend, NewTek; Go GUGRPA, LightWave UG AOL: Keyword NewTek Email: Tech@newtek.com ======================================================================== Article: 16436 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: chuck@bbs.newtek.com (Chuck Baker) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 15:59:17 Organization: NewTek Technical Support Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <19960409.7988D98.E441@bbs.newtek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.newtek.com On Fri 5-Apr-1996 12:58 , Stranahan wrote: S> The PC Toaster was a 'smoking mirrors' product, as I've mentioned before. S> I don't think 'Phoenix' will ever ship - it just doesn't make any sense S> with the advent of DVC camcorders and better quality non-linear systems S> that are cheaper. Just a note: the "Toaster For Windows" and "Phoenix" are two different things. The product team does not seem to consider either of them to be "smoke and mirrors", and has certainly adjusted development to account for the way the industry is shaping. I'll make sure the NewTek NAB info releases post here, as well as AOL, CIS, BBS, so everyone gets brought up to date. ======================================================================== Chuck Baker | TekWorld: NewTek Tech Support BBS Technical Support Online Services | telnet address: bbs.newtek.com NewTek, Inc. | modem ports: 913-271-9299 ======================================================================== CompuServe: Go AmigaVend, NewTek; Go GUGRPA, LightWave UG AOL: Keyword NewTek Email: Tech@newtek.com ======================================================================== Article: 16437 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: chuck@bbs.newtek.com (Chuck Baker) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW 4.0 upgrade for amiga/toaster? Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 16:14:51 Organization: NewTek Technical Support Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <19960409.7727F58.EE6D@bbs.newtek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.newtek.com On Mon 8-Apr-1996 19:41 , Dwight Gruber wrote: DG> > DG> > Video Toaster 4.1 for the standalone Toaster is now in production. DG> Shipments DG> > should commence in the next week. DG> OK, so what do I have to do to get it? DG> --DwightG That depends -- if you bought the Toaster as such a time that it came with a coupon stating it was eligible for a free upgrade to "4.0", and you registered your product, the upgrade will be shipped automatically. You can contact our Customer Service department by calling 1-800-847-6111 (or 913-228-8000), or by emailing customerservice@newtek.com, to confirm. If you aren't eligible for the free update, call any dealer who carries NewTek products, to purchase the update. Suggested retail is $549, installation requires a CD-ROM drive. . . ======================================================================== Chuck Baker | TekWorld: NewTek Tech Support BBS Technical Support Online Services | telnet address: bbs.newtek.com NewTek, Inc. | modem ports: 913-271-9299 ======================================================================== CompuServe: Go AmigaVend, NewTek; Go GUGRPA, LightWave UG AOL: Keyword NewTek Email: Tech@newtek.com ======================================================================== Article: 16438 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!francenet.fr!usenet From: emperor2@micronet.fr (William Hamon) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW4.0 wont save to AVI? Date: 9 Apr 1996 21:47:29 GMT Organization: Empire Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4kelth$9p@chleuasme.francenet.fr> References: <4ka9mg$knn@newshub.cts.com> Reply-To: emperor2@micronet.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: pppa215.micronet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.3 In article <4ka9mg$knn@newshub.cts.com>, root@spacelink.com says... > > > I'm using LW4.0 on a Pentium machine with 32MB ram and 3 GB disk >under Win95. I've created an animation sequence which I am trying to >render out to an .AVI file. I've gone to the OPTIONS menu and "Add >plug-ins" selection. There, I selected "hiip\hiipsave" and received a >message that the plug-in's were successfully added. next, I go to the >'RECORD" menu and select "Save Animation", supply a filename and then >select "HIip-avi16(.avi)" from the animation type selections. Next, I >render. LW goes through the motions and actually renders my >animation. HOWEVER, nothing is ever saved to disk.. anywhere. > >Any suggestions on why this doesn't work? Should this work? If not, >what is the best way to generate an .AVI file of one's LW4.0 >animations? > >Thanks for any suggestions, >-Jim > Do you put the extension .avi at the end of your file name (ex: anim01.AVI)? If you don't, it doesn't save anything... However, you can use HIip-avi32, it works perfectly! Bye! Ciao! Au revoir! Auf vieder sehen! [Emperor II... Article: 16439 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!Utrecht.NL.net!news From: wdwbest@cybercomm.nl (Wiebo de Wit) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW4.0 wont save to AVI? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 19:17:08 GMT Organization: BEST grafix Lines: 25 Message-ID: <316ab37b.3492623@news.cybercomm.nl> References: <4ka9mg$knn@newshub.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: async3.heerenveen.cybercomm.nl X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/16.182 On Sun, 07 Apr 1996 05:54:05 GMT, root@spacelink.com wrote: > I'm using LW4.0 on a Pentium machine with 32MB ram and 3 GB disk >under Win95. I've created an animation sequence which I am trying to >render out to an .AVI file. I've gone to the OPTIONS menu and "Add >plug-ins" selection. There, I selected "hiip\hiipsave" and received a >message that the plug-in's were successfully added. next, I go to the >'RECORD" menu and select "Save Animation", supply a filename and then >select "HIip-avi16(.avi)" from the animation type selections. Next, I >render. LW goes through the motions and actually renders my >animation. HOWEVER, nothing is ever saved to disk.. anywhere. >Any suggestions on why this doesn't work? Should this work? If not, >what is the best way to generate an .AVI file of one's LW4.0 >animations? Be sure to put .avi behind your animation file-name. If this doesn't work, maybe the installation of LW has messed up some dll file's. After my installation (under win'95) LWinstaller had copied NT versions of DLL's in my system dir. To be really sure, copy your system dir, install LW, copy your system dir back and there you go. If this doesn't work, get Windows NT, it;s much better for LW. _____Wiebo de Wit_____ _wdwbest@cybercomm.nl_ _______!Vavoom!_______ Article: 16440 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!surfnet.nl!sun4nl!Utrecht.NL.net!news.via.nl!news From: Peter Hartman Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: creating 3d text objects in the modeler ?? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 21:18:14 +0200 Organization: CompuShop Venlo Lines: 10 Message-ID: <316AB7F6.7765@via.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: modems11.via.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) Hi, there I know this sounds silly but I have a tiny question: How can i create 3d-text in the modeler....???????? It seems to me i can only create 2d-text. Is this correct? Please help me Falcon@via.nl Article: 16441 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!interaccess!mfrazin.interaccess.com!mfrazin From: mfrazin@interaccess.com (Shadow) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: LW4.0 do I choose WINDOWS NT OR 32S Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:12:10 -0600 Organization: InterAccess,Chicagoland's Full Service Internet Provider Lines: 5 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: d197.nnb.interaccess.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] I have windows 95. Do I select to install windows NT or 32s for revision c of LW 4.0. Thank you. Article: 16442 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!news2.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!shf From: shf@netcom.com (Stuart Ferguson) Subject: Re: HELP! Need lightwave plug-in code/docs... HELP! Message-ID: Organization: The Blue Planet References: <4kcb8h$3bb@pacific.ics.uci.edu> <4kdmbe$n8o@panix3.panix.com> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:44:27 GMT Lines: 14 Sender: shf@netcom2.netcom.com vector@panix.com (Charles Sung Lee) writes: | Jason M. Cahill (jcahill@pacific.ics.uci.edu) wrote: | : I just bought a copy of Lightwave a few days back, and ever since have been | : trying to log on to ftp.newtek.com (and the alternate). Neither of these | : are running, and I need a copy of the plug-in SDK. Can someone with this | I think the SDKs are on the CD (the installer doesn't install them.) You can get the SDK for 5.0 from ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/lw/lwsdk. I just uploaded it last night. If you're looking for clues about NAB however, the SDK doesn't really give anything away. -- Stuart Ferguson (shf@netcom.com) "How do you compute that? Where on the graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?" Article: 16443 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.tacom.army.mil!news2.acs.oakland.edu!newsfeed.concentric.net!news From: Bryant Reif Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW4.0 do I choose WINDOWS NT OR 32S Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 18:41:22 -0400 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 26 Message-ID: <316AE792.47F5@pilot.msu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: crc11-fddi.cris.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Shadow wrote: > > I have windows 95. Do I select to install windows NT or 32s for revision c of > LW 4.0. > > Thank you. Here are the instructions I received for installing LW 4.0c on Win95... Windows 95: Choose Windows NT in the Operating System dialog. This is because you want the 32-bit version of the program and content files. Use the default directory (NewTek) to install in. If you don't want any of the included content (objects, scenes, etc.), deselect the appropriate check-boxes. Check that Msvcrt20.dll was installed. Don't install any dongle drivers. Reboot. Everything has worked perfectly since (except the dongle) -- Bryant Reif mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant Article: 16444 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 9 Apr 1996 18:44:50 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 17 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kep92$5bc@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com >NewTek ALREADY HAS a serious tool. If you weren't one too you'd know that. > > -=Fred=- You make me laugh. Were you not held enough as a child, Fred? Is that why you lash out bitterly? If you think nothing else needs to be done to LightWave ever again, please tell us all that. Allen and Stuart needs to respond to the competition's advances with advances of their own. Shaded, OpenGl layout and modeler, and improved IK are not going to do it, since that's what everyone *expects* as the norm for programs nowdays anyway. --Brian http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/ http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/ Article: 16445 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!surfnet.nl!news.nic.utwente.nl!news From: h.hazenberg@student.utwente.nl (Hank) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: How do I configure SNrender on my Windows95-system? Date: 9 Apr 1996 12:54:25 GMT Organization: Hank-Automation Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4kdmm1$107@dinkel.civ.utwente.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: cal048062.student.utwente.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Could anyone tell me how I should configure Lightwave 4.0 to render a scene with multiple processors with my local Windows95 network??? I read something about it a few days before in this newsgroup, but now I can't get the article anymore. Article: 16446 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!netserv.com!pagesat.net!cg57.esnet.com!torment!mad From: mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Best of LightWave Pro Message-ID: Date: 9 Apr 96 14:44:00 PST Organization: Tierra-Miga BBS Lines: 38 On Tue 9-Apr-1996 12:44a, Tony Lisanti wrote: TL> In message <4kagt6$mnm@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, gkeenan818@aol.com TL> (GKeenan818) TL> writes: TL> >I'm sorry of this question has appeared on here recently, but here goes TL> >anyway... TL> > TL> >Has anyone received their copy of The Best Of LightWave Pro yet? I TL> ordered TL> >four copies, and expected to get them at the end of December. My Visa TL> card TL> >got charged, but nothing appeared through the post. A quick telephone TL> call TL> >to AMG to find out what was going on and I was told that the printers had TL> >made a mistake (or something) and the book would be out around the end of TL> >March.... TL> > TL> I was told that it would ship in april. I think they should really do TL> something for all of us who have been awaiting this package all this TL> time.. At TL> least a bonus book or CD or a discount coupon or something.. TL> Tony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tend to have to agree. I sent in my check way back in January, and then after waiting forever, I decided to give them a call to see what was up. I was told that basically it was to be shiped at the end of March, but then some sort of problems occured and it was for sure going to be shipped out around the second of April. So I guess I didn't really mind cuz I just thought that these things happen sometimes. But now, when you never hear from anyone on the deal and NO notes or we're sorries ever come, well then I really begin to wonder........WHAT'S UP? ..........................md Article: 16447 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!netserv.com!pagesat.net!cg57.esnet.com!torment!mad From: mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Is it true? Message-ID: Date: 9 Apr 96 15:02:00 PST Organization: Tierra-Miga BBS Lines: 54 On Tue 9-Apr-1996 12:10a, leimberger wrote: l> In article , mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark l> Dunakin) writes: l>l> |> l> |>Is it true? I so far am unable to find a way to mirror my surface maps l> on l> |>objects. I'm going to dig through my manuals and books again to see, but l> as l> |>far as I can tell, the only way to do this is to make your textures to l> have l> |>matching edges first in a paint program before you map them onto any l> object. l> |>And then I was reviewing the Ron Thorton video tape on textures and he l> said l> |>that whenever you are going to have a texture wrap around and meet l> itself, l> |>that you need to make sure that the edges are the same, so as to not l> leave a l> |>seam. Of course this all makes plenty of sence, but I would have thought l> that l> |>an awesome program like LW would have a mirroring setting like in Strata l> or l> |>for that matter, practically any other 3D program that I can think of. l> |> l> |>So, please if anyone knows of such a way to do this, "mirroring", of l> textures l> |>then could you let me know. It really sucks having to go and crop, clip, l> and l> |>paste all of everyone of my textures just to make them "appear" to be l> |>seamless........ l> |> l> |>TIA..............md :) l> |> l> Imagine, I believed had a mirror option. regardless though if you want a l> seamless texture then I believe you need a seamless image map. I know l> other l> programs also require seamless images. If you load an image map apply l> it in a surface without autosizing it you will get a repetitive series l> of images layed out in a tile format. If the image is not made to be l> seamless then I think you will notice it regardless of the program. l> developing seamless maps for 3D has always been a problem. l> -bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I have Strata on the Mac and in that program all you have to do is select "mirror" as your tiling. Strata then goes and just does a simple flip-flop around with the texture so as to make it at least "appear" to be seamless. I know of course that it still wouldn't be a seamless like if you were to use a fractal or something, but it still comes of pretty darn good. I just guess I can't see what the big deal is, that LW can't put a feature like this in........It's really not that big of a thing to do......:( md Article: 16448 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!netserv.com!pagesat.net!cg57.esnet.com!torment!mad From: mad@torment.tmisnet.com (Mark Dunakin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Snaking Objects Message-ID: Date: 9 Apr 96 15:22:59 PST Organization: Tierra-Miga BBS Lines: 13 On Tue 9-Apr-1996 3:57a, Sam Marrocco wrote: SM> I've pinned objects to paths in layout before, but is it possible to SM> "automatically" snake an object along a motion path, thereby bending to SM> object to the path as it moves along it? ----------------- I think that first: you'd need to string some bones cilded to the next and so on. then just have each one use the same path, and since each one would be placed in a slightly different position along the path, then it would make sence to me that it would allow the object to freely bend along with the shape of the path. That is provided that you first did a few subdevides on the object in question. ..........md :) Article: 16449 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gkeenan818@aol.com (GKeenan818) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Dongle Failure Date: 9 Apr 1996 20:26:19 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 13 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kev7b$7d6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3169C446.3D7@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader I don't want to start another discussion on the pro's and con's of using a 'cracked' version of LightWave, even though I do understand some peoples points of view on the matter. Even so, my distributor has informed me (I am a dealer by the way) that the amount of faulty dongles being returned is increasing at an alarming rate. I am told that the turnaround on getting a new dongle is around 2 months, and if this is the case I can guarantee you that I am going to be rather annoyed.... Once again, I am waiting for some feedback from NewTek on this matter and another day has went by...... Article: 16450 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gkeenan818@aol.com (GKeenan818) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Best of LightWave Pro Date: 9 Apr 1996 20:26:29 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 22 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kev7l$7dg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <960302014214454@FrontierTech.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <960302014214454@FrontierTech.COM>, tlisanti@earth.planet.net (Tony Lisanti) writes: > I was told that it would ship in april. I think they should really do >something for all of us who have been awaiting this package all this time.. >At >least a bonus book or CD or a discount coupon or something.. > >Tony Considering that THEY are earning INTEREST on MY money, why should I accept a voucher for something? For anyone interested, they should read Video Toaster User Issue April/May 93 under the Toaster Talk Editorial section. The article does appear to reflect this current situation..... If I am to get anything from them, it would have to be THEM paying for the IMPORT DUTY I am going to have to pay WHEN/IF it arrives. Article: 16451 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!gt-news!prism!prism!not-for-mail From: ccasttt@prism.gatech.edu (Taka Torimoto) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: What is "Phoenix"?? (was Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB) Date: 9 Apr 1996 20:51:51 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4kf0n7$mdp@acmez.gatech.edu> References: <19960409.7983618.E1F2@bbs.newtek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: acmez-prism.gatech.edu >This early "PC Toasterlink" should not be confused with the "Video Toaster for >Windows", which is progressing well, with a number of changes to account for >current progress in the state of video technology, nor with "Phoenix", which >is something else entirely, and is also progressing well. What exactly is the "Phoenix"? Did I miss something? -taka -- Takahito "Taka" Torimoto Sound Illusions Multimedia Studios /// Georgia Institute of Technology Flocking Sheep Productions __ /// Electrical/Computer Engineering Senior http://www.gatech.edu/taka \\\/// "tabula rasa? que pasa? green pasta?" --'--,--(@ Team AMIGA \XX/ Article: 16452 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 9 Apr 1996 21:27:44 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 46 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kf2qg$93k@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kebv8$gg2@guitar.sound.net> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Well, I'm glad Chuck and Jason clarified what I'd already clarified... I still don't believe things are progressing well on PC Toaster. The 'development team' has thinned out a lot, and NewTek lost people like Marty - who wouldn't come back even when offered more money. Last year at NAB, 'Traz people SWORE it would be out in a few months ....or by the end of the year at the latest. I was shocked when I (mistakenly) thought that the '95 NAB was a complete sham - it was not a complete sham, but just a partial sham. It was a thrown together product with many unanswered questions. Worst of all, it was thrown together because Tim Jenison's ego doesn't allow him to focus on LightWave ; a great product that he didn't invent. Instead, Tim has wasted time and resources working on things like 'Digiview For Windows' (trying to beat Play's Snappy) or pitching people on fake products like 'Pocket Trout' or watching Dwight pull bad reviews of the Flyer from national magazines. Ever wonder why NewTek took so long to unbundle LightWave from the Toaster? Jim Plant and I had made the suggestion about 3 and 1/2 years ago, and Tim told us that 'the PC is dead' Did you notice that it wasn't until -after- Paul Montgomery and the others left that LightWave became a stand-alone product? This seems strange, because the Play people say they left because Tim wouldn't move to other platforms...but as soon as they leave, he moves to other platforms...why this paradox? Ever wonder why the Flyer only had a storyboard view, not a timeline? There were arguments for months and months in Traz - and Tim would never budge an inch.....until Paul and company left? Well - sadly for me, frankly - I found out the answer a few weeks ago, straight from Tim. The truth is ugly and it's personal and it's almost unbelievable....but Tim's insecurity and jealousy have made him make some horrible business and engineering (and personal, actually ) decisions. _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16453 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.MediaCity.com!dot From: brett@renderhaus.com (Brett Tribble) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: New feature/Wish Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 01:53:31 GMT Organization: MediaCity World http://www.mediacity.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4kf3fp$149@easy2.mediacity.com> References: <4kbes6$sco@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kbhd8$t7e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kc12v$pph@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: easy3.mediacity.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 In article <4kc12v$pph@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>, wmendez@ix.netcom.com(William A. Mendez ) wrote: >Hello, > >Is there a way to control the glow for seperate objects in a scene, I >don't see any other way than in the effects panel. > >If not can an evelope feature be added to the surfaces panel next to >glow that way each surface has it's own glow attribute. > >Thanks! >Will Mendez No their isn't, and that really sucks! Also, glows dissapear if a glowing object moves behind a transparent one. Brett Article: 16454 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news From: Bryant Reif Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 22:04:34 -0400 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 14 Message-ID: <316B1732.9FB@pilot.msu.edu> References: <4kep92$5bc@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cnc045209.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) VirtualBri wrote: > Allen and Stuart needs to respond to the competition's advances with > advances of their own. Shaded, OpenGl layout and modeler, and improved IK > are not going to do it, since that's what everyone *expects* as the norm > for programs nowdays anyway. I really really want some form of NURBS to be included in LW 5.0. Metaform is an ok substitute but some things are done more efficiently w/ NURBS. -- Bryant Reif mailto:reifbrya@pilot.msu.edu http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant Article: 16455 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW 4.0 upgrade for amiga/toaster? Date: 9 Apr 1996 22:28:16 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 19 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kf6c0$asp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <19960409.7727F58.EE6D@bbs.newtek.com> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com If you aren't eligible for the free update, call any dealer who carries NewTek products, to purchase the update. Suggested retail is $549, installation requires a CD-ROM drive. ------------------ There's no non-CD-Rom installation? _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16456 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!ur002968 From: imagine@h130.aone.net.au (Kevin Gleeson) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: 95 InterFace for NT ! (NT4 kicks bottom) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 02:19:13 GMT Organization: Imagine It Lines: 44 Message-ID: <4kf5n4$7mt@news.mel.aone.net.au> References: <3158CD73.44E2@cyberportal.net> <4jctqq$61l@news.paonline.com> <4jej2a$dom@voyager.iii.org.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: d49-1.cpe.hobart.aone.net.au X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 In article , zimmerma@chapman.edu (Dan Zimmerman) wrote: >In article <4jej2a$dom@voyager.iii.org.tw> dan@acti.com (Daniel J. McCoy) > writes: >>From: dan@acti.com (Daniel J. McCoy) >>Subject: Re: 95 InterFace for NT ! (NT4 kicks bottom) >>Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 17:54:54 GMT > > >>I've got a P133 with a Perception card running NT 4.0 beta 1. The only thing >>I can't do is create new projects within the PVR software itself nor can I >>render directly to it. But it plays back just fine. :) > >How do you open files in the PVR under the new shell? I can't open the file >requester at all. Anybody else experiencing that? >dan The PVR is trying to directly open the older file requester but can't find it, so it doesn't open any file requester. I queried DPS' tech support about the problem but their reply was that as the newshell is Beta software they will not support it until it is released. Considering that this is the only problem I have encountered under beta 4.0, I thought they might make the effort for this one little change. There are a hell of a lot of people using the newshell and I doubt whether the file requester will change for release as it already looks identical to 95. I know it isn't a good idea to make changes to match Beta versions in case they change again upon release, but how about it DPS? Please? Just one little change. I'd won't go back to the old shell and have to jump out to Win95 to open .ply files, etc. Cheers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kevin Gleeson Imagine It 3D animation and graphics Hobart Tasmania Australia The Librarian Rules! - OOOK! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Article: 16457 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!dobie.loop.com!news From: spader@idt.com (Spader) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95,alt.2600,alt.26 Subject: Re: HOW TO DO A BATCH HTTP FILE DOWNLOAD hybridv=putz Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 02:59:59 GMT Organization: The Loop Lines: 88 Distribution: world Message-ID: <316b223b.2944025@nntp.loop.com> References: <315df4e7.30083078@nntp.loop.com> <31601c49.6539557@news.compuserve.com> <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com> <3161a179.438764@news.earthlink.net> <4k5bvp$d28@usenet7.interramp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pma77.loop.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.168 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34087 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16457 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:13511 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14459 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x:1407 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95:7799 alt.26 On Sat, 06 Apr 1996 09:01:10 GMT, BOXHOLDER@OCCUPANT.FedEx.net (Boxholder) wrote: >On Tue, 02 Apr 1996 21:54:41 GMT, hybridv, hybridv wrote: > >>On Tue, 02 Apr 1996 12:48:53 -0800, "Frank O. Schaefer" >> wrote: >> >>>Rascal wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sun, 31 Mar 1996 03:04:36 GMT, spader@idt.com (Spader) wrote: >>>> >>>> >Ever want to just leave your computer to download 5 files? Now you >>>> >can (you can download as many files as you want, one by one)!! >>>> > >>>> >Visit: >>>> > >>>> >http://www.loop.com/~maeder/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >Your Welcome, >>>> > >>>> >Spader >>>> If you use WIN95 you can download multipule files. >>>> M-U-L-T-I-T-A-S-K-I-N-G!!!!!!! >>> EXCUSE ME! I DO run Windows 95. What if you want to download 15 files from http sites and use a 28.8 baud modem? What are you going to do when you start downloading them all at the same time and come back later only to find that they all STOPPED downloading? And, BTW, Windows 95 is awesome at multi-tasking, and NT is even better! >>>If you haven't already noticed: >>>Win95 does not do real multitasking Win95 is pure SHIT ! >>>You should use a real multitasking environment instead ! >>>And if your on a PC the only thing for YOU is OS/2 !! OS/2 sucks SHIT! The GUI is so annoying and there's NO SOFTWARE for it! Shut up you dumbass, Windows 95 kicks OS/2s ass any day... >>>-- >>>THE DARK SITE - Psycho's Hompepage... >>>http://www-city.europeonline.com/cyberhome/psycho/home.htm >> >> >>shut the FUCK up loser... Win95 Does better multitasking then os/2 by >>far obviously you have either a shitty computer or you just suck... >> All right, my brother! >>i can run 3d studio, 2 versions of netscape, 2 versions of agent, and >>adobe premiere 4.2 all at the same time with no noticble slow down or >>crashes... therefor you dont know how to fucking setup your computer >>or your just a dumbass... >> (i'd go for the dumbass idea...) >>HybridV >> >NO, I say again, NO WAY does WIN95 do "Multi-Tasking"! There is but >one processor and it is working on one program at a time! > What, did IBM find some way to do "true" multi-tasking on one processor with OS/2? NO... >You may seem to be running a bunch of programs, but all you are doing >is splitting the clock cycles. Granted the Pxxx chip does the execute >shuffel rather fast so one would hardly notice the it is only working >on one executaable program at a time. BUT, it is doing just that "one >at a time". Unless you have a multi processor (eg a dual or quad >pentium) you are not and never will do multi tasking. It just aint >possible for one processor to think about two programs at once. > >The first popular multiprocessing computer was the CDC 6400 in the mid >to late 1960's and damn few places could afford one. It did have a >large redundant system of processors feeding off a single controll >processor. capable of running 22+ printers, 16 tape drives, 16 disk >pak units 4 7foot diameter 32 platter disk units, 200 telex hookups >and a few dozen card reader and other input mediums. that my little >twit is multitasking. > >What you are refering so proudly to is job switching. - - - So who is >the fucking ass hole here ??? Me thinks it is you fart face. Your >talking about things you only wish you knew. Try going to school in >stead of playing in sme chat room trying to impress the teeny bopper >jail bait. > >And yea I was writing in binary and octal before you were an evel >thought your father never should have carried out! "evel thought" huh? And you call yourself educ8ud? Another correction - Methinks. Just pointed out the extremely annoying shit here... Spader Article: 16458 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: fwtep@earthlink.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 04:11:43 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4k51m5$qtk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <316A402C.572E@osu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: max7-la-ca-30.earthlink.net X-Newsreader: Quarterdeck Message Center [2.00] Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34090 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16458 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14463 On 4/9/96 3:47AM, in message <316A402C.572E@osu.edu>, Jeff Jasper wrote: > > I think there are a lot of cool things in MAX, in fact, I thought they were > > cool way back when Lightwave introduced them. > > Yeah like full interactive rendering throughout the program, particles, IK > with > joint constraints, sound synch, unlimted object stacks, etc. Wait those are > not > yet features in Lightwave that were introduced by MAX. It goes both ways you > see. > > Jeff > > PS-relax it's only software Nothing has been introduced by Max yet. -- -=Fred=- Article: 16459 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.oz.net!news.wwa.com!news From: cjtsui Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: New feature/Wish Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 22:02:47 -0700 Organization: cjpost Lines: 18 Message-ID: <316B40F7.406E@wwa.com> References: <4kbes6$sco@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kbhd8$t7e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kc12v$pph@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <4kf3fp$149@easy2.mediacity.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool5-053.wwa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) Brett Tribble wrote: > > In article <4kc12v$pph@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>, wmendez@ix.netcom.com(William A. Mendez ) wrote: > >Hello, > > > >Is there a way to control the glow for seperate objects in a scene, I > >don't see any other way than in the effects panel. > > > >If not can an evelope feature be added to the surfaces panel next to > >glow that way each surface has it's own glow attribute. > > > >Thanks! > >Will Mendez > > No their isn't, and that really sucks! Also, glows dissapear if a glowing > object moves behind a transparent one. > > Brettalso, you can't raytrace glows Article: 16460 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!news.bconnex.net!grumpy.insinc.net!pegasus.odyssee.net!news From: Stephane Bastien Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Who's going to NAB? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 22:10:56 -0400 Organization: Odyssee Internet Lines: 11 Message-ID: <316B18B0.2699@odyssee.net> References: <31594530.68A1@ademco.com> <4jbsnj$bom@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3163F76D.7A17@got.net> <31656BD5.6BBD@vvm.com> Reply-To: light@odyssee.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pool25_6.odyssee.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) > 1: Fori Owurowa - "Keeper of the twisty box" > 2: Alan Chan - No honorary title as such.. > 3: Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, Questar Productions. "The obligatory Noble Gas" > 4: Simon Blackledge ,transmission 3d ,based in the uk > 5: Mark (Habanero-Jones) Thompson > 6: Richard Garrison- WAVELENGTH--- > 7: Ken Geary - Ademco -(article on Ademco in April issue of PC Graphics & Video) > 8: Brian "Can only stand to be there Monday" Tatosky, Equinox Images, Inc. > 9: Ace Miles - Who's tryin to find a flight in Tues & out Wed :( > 10:Paul Lara - "WaveRider" (VDO Productions) 11: Stephane Bastien, Telecine Multimedia inc. Montreal, Quebec.(just call me light) Article: 16461 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: temparts@bbs.newtek.com (Donald Cotnoir-strong) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX her Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 23:34:07 Organization: Temporal Arts Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <19960409.776AA28.14CE0@bbs.newtek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.newtek.com In a message dated 04-08-96 15-50 John Foust writes: JF> Why, because you think you couldn't use it to make $1,000 as a return JF> on your investment? I'm sure some people will buy it as an insurance JF> policy, just to "know" Max. But John, it's not just $1000--it's $1000 plus the time to overcome the learning curve. This can be quite substantial and not as easily made up as the purchase price alone. JF> Chance favors the prepared mind. Stop watching Steven Seagal movies. (D'Ohh! I hadn't intended to let that slip.) Don Cotnoir-Strong Temporal Arts 205-351-7326 * Offline Orbit 0.72 * Article: 16462 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!news From: cjtsui Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks. Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 22:42:59 -0700 Organization: cjpost Lines: 32 Message-ID: <316B4A63.5EB6@wwa.com> References: <4jufet$1l2@easy2.mediacity.com> <4juolr$oti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4k51m5$qtk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <316A402C.572E@osu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool5-053.wwa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34093 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16462 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14466 fwtep@earthlink.net wrote: > > > > Yeah like full interactive rendering throughout the program, particles, IK > > with > > joint constraints, sound synch, unlimted object stacks, etc. Wait those are > > not > > yet features in Lightwave that were introduced by MAX. It goes both ways you > > see. > > > > Jeff > > > > PS-relax it's only software > > Nothing has been introduced by Max yet. > -- > -=Fred=- joint constraints? that is in LW 4.0, in fact it was in the pre-release for the SGI version b4 the intel version came out. I believe sound sync is a plugin in Max, at least thats the impression I got when I played with it a month ago (when did you see it?). btw, that "etc" feature is still missing, damn. :) its not just software, its my mortgage payment Josh Tsui p.s. and yes, I initially raved about Max, but I've calmed down since then and have seen other things that makes me happy. Article: 16463 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Is it true? Date: 10 Apr 1996 01:15:26 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 5 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kfg5e$fde@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Mirrored surfaces look bad. Why would they want to make bad surfacing a specific feature? --Brian http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/ http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/ Article: 16464 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!news.bconnex.net!grumpy.insinc.net!pegasus.odyssee.net!news From: Stephane Bastien Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Who's going to NAB? Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 23:25:43 -0400 Organization: Odyssee Internet Lines: 6 Message-ID: <316B2A37.6BB9@odyssee.net> References: <31594530.68A1@ademco.com> <4jbsnj$bom@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3163F76D.7A17@got.net> <31656BD5.6BBD@vvm.com> <316B18B0.2699@odyssee.net> Reply-To: light@odyssee.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pool9_2.odyssee.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) How do I get an invitation to attend Newtek party at NAB? Email: light@odyssee.net Stephane Bastien Telecine Multimedia inc. Montreal, Quebec. Article: 16465 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: djm2984712@aol.com (DJM2984712) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 10 Apr 1996 02:39:10 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 7 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kfl2e$h7g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <19960409.7988D98.E441@bbs.newtek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <19960409.7988D98.E441@bbs.newtek.com>, chuck@bbs.newtek.com (Chuck Baker) writes: >Just a note: the "Toaster For Windows" and "Phoenix" are two different >things. OK, I'll bite since no one else seems to have done so. What is "Phoenix?" Article: 16466 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: djm2984712@aol.com (DJM2984712) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 10 Apr 1996 02:42:14 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 32 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kfl86$h9a@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kf2qg$93k@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <4kf2qg$93k@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) writes: >...Tim has wasted time and resources working on things like 'Digiview For >Windows' (trying to beat Play's Snappy) or pitching people on fake >products like 'Pocket Trout' or watching Dwight pull bad reviews of the >Flyer from national magazines. What is "Pocket Trout?" What is "Phoenix?" How does one get a magazine to pull an unfavorable review? We know how it's possible to get a favorable review pulled (at least from VTU, right Lee?) But assuming that it's even possible to pull a stunt like that with an independent magazine, why didn't they get the one pulled from the new DV? >Well - sadly for me, frankly - I found out the answer a few weeks ago, >straight from Tim. The truth is ugly and it's personal and it's almost >unbelievable....but Tim's insecurity and jealousy have made him make some >horrible business and engineering (and personal, actually ) decisions. As the Desktop Video World Turns... What exactly led to this confessional? Remorse? Pressure? Happy hour chit-chat? So, without spilling all the gory details, was Tim actually acknowledging that his insecurity & jealousy had led him to these poor decisions, or was he still in denial and simply stating the facts of the divorce? In other words, does Tim understand that he's insecure & jealous and that he's made bad decisions as a result? Or was this your interpretation of the events that he relayed to you? What are his plans, if any, to correct course, both personally and professionally? Therapy? Front office help? Article: 16467 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: ken4anim@aol.com (Ken4Anim) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Cyrix 6x86 and Lightwave? Date: 10 Apr 1996 02:56:54 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 4 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kfm3m$hfg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: ken4anim@aol.com (Ken4Anim) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I want something faster than my 486 to run Lightwave. I was planning on getting a Pentium 100, but for the same price I could get a Cyrix 6x86, which is supposed to be much faster. Does anyone know if it is compatible with Lightwave? Or how it performs running Lightwave in 3.1 or NT? Article: 16468 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news.accessone.com!news From: jeric@accessone.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 10 Apr 1996 07:01:38 GMT Organization: AccessOne Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4kfmci$qij@news.accessone.com> References: <4kebv8$gg2@guitar.sound.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeric.accessone.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > Jason@newtek.com (Jason Linhart) writes: > Quite a few of you were at NAB last year and saw the box being held > above the heads of our demo people while it was playing video. The > box was not connected in any way to an Amiga. I think I even saw the > box with cover off at one time so that everyone could look inside to > see the hardware. > > I invite all of you that are going to NAB this year to stop by the > booth again and check out the products that we are showing. > > Jason Linhart Jason, you realize now that you'll HAVE to have all the cables out in the open and clearly marked or the mob will storm the castle, right? >8^) ****************************************************************************** ** jeric@accessone.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation ** ** Welcome to Seattle! Have a latte'! | Technical Subjects a Specialty!** ** Don't make me force it down your throat.| "OK! Wind the frog!" ** Article: 16469 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!pipeline!not-for-mail From: justin@nyc.pipeline.com (Michael Justin Austin) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, Subject: Re: Dongle Failure< References: <4kev7b$7d6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pipe10.nyc.pipeline.com X-PipeUser: justin X-PipeHub: nyc.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (Michael Austin) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 On Apr 09, 1996 20:26:19 in article , 'gkeenan818@aol.com (GKeenan818)' wrote: >I don't want to start another discussion on the pro's and con's of using a >'cracked' version of LightWave, even though I do understand some peoples >points of view on the matter. > >Even so, my distributor has informed me (I am a dealer by the way) that >the amount of faulty dongles being returned is increasing at an alarming >rate. I am told that the turnaround on getting a new dongle is around 2 >months, and if this is the case I can guarantee you that I am going to be >rather annoyed.... > >Once again, I am waiting for some feedback from NewTek on this matter and >another day has went by...... > Article: 16470 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.flinet.com!not-for-mail From: d-nomad@flinet.com (The Digital Nomad) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Frames Per Second? Date: 10 Apr 1996 07:24:30 GMT Organization: Florida Internet Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4kfnne$n1p@news.flinet.com> References: <4k43o1$rcu@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ns1.flinet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] David Hopkins (lthouse@primenet.com) wrote: : Actually, I believe you meant SCALE, now SHIFT. Of course, a scale of 2 would : make an animation setup at 30 fps take 60 fps, a scale of .5 would make it 15 : fps... : Oh, gawd....if you SCALE it by 2 and you had 30 frames you would get 60frames...not FRAMES/SEC(that's up to your anim player) SCALE scales the _number_ of frames, other than that it does not affect time in any way. -- ************THIS IS A FREE SPEECH ZONE********************* In defiance of the Communications Decency Act, I refuse to self-censor the content of my e-mail, my online postings, and my Web pages. I urge others to declare their online communications FREE SPEECH ZONES and to fight any attempts at regulating and "dumbing down" the Internet. The Net is not a playground for the government. Let's keep it that way! For more information about free speech on the Internet, see http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html. Eric Haddix(d-nomad@flinet.com) http://www.flinet.com/~d-nomad ************THIS IS A FREE SPEECH ZONE********************** Article: 16471 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dacom.co.kr!news.uoregon.edu!news.islandnet.com!news.islandnet.com!not-for-mail From: dretch@islandnet.com (Christopher Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: My LW 4 Rev C keeps crashing Date: 9 Apr 1996 20:40:54 -0700 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada Lines: 43 Message-ID: <4kfak6$3rf@islandnet.com> References: <4kcqa8$grn@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: islandnet.com In a message dated 9 Apr 1996 00:50:16 mhardi2720@aol.com writes: M> My Lightwave 4.0 rev. C on Win95 keeps getting some memory page fault and M> kicks me out. This only happens under certain (and repetitive) M> conditions. I have a scene that I created that it refuses to render. I M> know its not the best looking animation, but does my PC have to crash M> it!!?! M> The same has happened under the Modeler when I used certain Truetype M> fonts. What the hell is going on? Is it Lightwave or Win95 that is the M> problem? I'm in the same boat as far as Layout crashes. What elements are in your scene? I'm trying to narrow it down. Mine crashes while initializing the second frame (I DO get # 1 and I can single-render every other frame, I just can't press the "automatic" button). This only happens in one of my scenes with: - Glow effect behind multiple layers of transparency with moving fractal noise. - 16 objects with 8571 polys - 16 meg ram, Intel 4.0C, Win95 - Lots of textured surfaces. Horribly annoying as I have to be present to initialize each and every frame..... Christopher ps. Can anybody pop NewTek's bug report email address to me? Page seems down. ********************************************** Primordial * Christopher Stewart dretch@islandnet.com * Graphics Soup * http://primordial.victoria.bc.ca/ * WWW Animation * Home of the Lightwave 3D Search Engine * Training ********************************************** * Offline Orbit 0.73c * Article: 16472 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dacom.co.kr!news.uoregon.edu!news.islandnet.com!news.islandnet.com!not-for-mail From: dretch@islandnet.com (Christopher Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Snaking Objects Date: 9 Apr 1996 20:41:16 -0700 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4kfaks$3u0@islandnet.com> References: <4kcn6r$hoc@server3.mich.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: islandnet.com In a message dated 9 Apr 1996 03:57:15 marrocco@mich.com writes: M> I've pinned objects to paths in layout before, but is it possible to M> "automatically" snake an object along a motion path, thereby bending to M> object to the path as it moves along it? Not automatically. I grabbed a copy of Imagine 3.0 off a UK magazine coverdisk, imported the object via Interchange +, rendered the sequence in Imagine and composited it into Lightwave. Only glitch was the lack of an alpha in Imagine. I just re-rendered the scene to fake it.... Christopher ********************************************** Primordial * Christopher Stewart dretch@islandnet.com * Graphics Soup * http://primordial.victoria.bc.ca/ * WWW Animation * Home of the Lightwave 3D Search Engine * Training ********************************************** * Offline Orbit 0.73c * Article: 16473 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dacom.co.kr!news.uoregon.edu!news.islandnet.com!news.islandnet.com!not-for-mail From: dretch@islandnet.com (Christopher Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: New feature/Wish Date: 10 Apr 1996 00:19:09 -0700 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4kfndd$m1o@islandnet.com> References: <4kbes6$sco@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kbhd8$t7e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kc12v$pph@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <4kf3fp$149@easy2.mediacity.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: islandnet.com In a message dated Wed, 10 Apr 96 01:53 brett@renderhaus.com writes: B> No their isn't, and that really sucks! Also, glows dissapear if a glowing B> object moves behind a transparent one. Ummmm. I have a "glowing" grate with transparency mapped smoke pouring out of it. Seems to work fine for me. Christopher ********************************************** Primordial * Christopher Stewart dretch@islandnet.com * Graphics Soup * http://primordial.victoria.bc.ca/ * WWW Animation * Home of the Lightwave 3D Search Engine * Training ********************************************** * Offline Orbit 0.73c * Article: 16474 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeeder.servtech.com!news1.io.org!not-for-mail From: dlang@zot.io.org (Derek Lang) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: GVP phone pak questions Date: 10 Apr 1996 03:26:33 -0400 Organization: Internex Online (shell.io.org), Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4kfnr9$kd3@zot.io.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: zot.io.org This message is primarily to any Amiga users out there... An idea struck me as I was washing dishes the other day (okay maybe I wasn't washing the dishes :-> but it sounded like a good opener). I would like to create an Arexx script that uses the GVP phone Pack so that when I'm away from my computer I can call it up and punch in some seceret number and get the Amiga to blab back what frame it's rendering. I don't have a phone pak device so I don't know if this is entirely possible. Someone told me that the Phone Pak uses the Narrator device and that it is Arexx-able. So here's some questions... 1. Does the GVP Phone Pak work under WB3.0? 2. How much memory does the voice mail software take up? 3. How Arexx-able is it? 4. Can it still be bought from somewhere? Is there another way of doing this without the GVP phone pak? Derek<<<<< -- Derek Lang | "I want him in the games until he dies playing." - MCP Toronto, Ontario |-------------------------------------------------------- Canada | WebPage-O-Fun --> http://www.io.org/~dlang Article: 16475 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kthlango@aol.com (Kth Lango) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 10 Apr 1996 03:37:51 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 15 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kfogf$hpk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kafio$md1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: kthlango@aol.com (Kth Lango) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com >>> It looks to me like NewTek MAY be announcing a Mac (& Sun) version at this NAB.... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan <<<<< Well, I for one am intersted in this. I've got several Macs and no PC, but have learned Lightwave thoroughly (long story, don't ask..). My only fear is that it would take NewTek 15 months to get it out like the PC version. Keith Article: 16476 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: 10 Apr 1996 03:38:39 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 34 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kfohv$hq4@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kfl86$h9a@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com ------------------- What exactly led to this confessional? Remorse? Pressure? Happy hour chit-chat? ----------------------------------- What led to this? A couple of things. The last conversation I had with Tim has been eating at me....I used to admire Tim. Because of that last conversation, I don't anymore. That sucks, it really does - I miss that, but.... As weird as it may seem, the Tim and Paul split has echoes that exist to this day. NewTek employees slander Paul Montgomery on a regular basis, without knowing Tim's real issue with Paul. Sometimes it is overt - like a note Brad Peebler sent someone accusing Paul of 'robbing' Tim. This is totally false, and it is legal slander. Sometimes it's subtle - like Brad Peebler (coincidently, again) saying in a post on this group that the 'Balls' ad has had better response than any other ad. When I challenged this, Brad said that NewTek didn't used to track those things and it's good they do now - the implication being that 'old' NewTek was that much of a mess. Well, bullshit - I was there....the Revolution tape got a HUGE response, and they knew how many calls came in every day. There are many other examples of this sort of crap...and now that I know that real story behind the Tim & Paul split, they REALLY piss me off...nobody at NewTek has a -clue- about what really happened. Not yet, anyway... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16477 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.cinenet.net!ppp86.cinenet.net!user From: astromal@cinenet.net (Victor Osaka) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: LTWV Tips Incorporated Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 00:48:21 +0100 Organization: Cinenet Communications,Internet Access,Los Angeles;310-301-4500 Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp86.cinenet.net How many ways can you create excellent tire treads in LW? Here is one. Any others? 1. Model a basic tire shape with the tread surface named "tread." Create a "higher" res. image (map with correct aspect ratio!) 256 color. Create a bump map from this image in 2 bits. Create a diffusion map (256 color grey) detailing the contact surface of the tread. Apply these to the tire surface in layout. Adjust your specularity and render. Besure the tire's outer surface has ample polygons so the object's edges look smooth. 2. Article: 16478 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 10 Apr 1996 03:49:51 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 10 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kfp6v$i0t@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kfogf$hpk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I'd be interested, too - Apple and Sun are mentioned on NewTek's invite.. _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON! ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm Article: 16479 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!usenet From: melorama@pixi.com (Mel Matsuoka) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Auto-tracing bitmaps into vector format? Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 06:18:34 GMT Organization: Pacific Information eXchange, Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <316b51fe.65448410@news.pixi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gorgax00.pixi.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Are there any programs for Windows that can autotrace bitmapped logos and convert them into a vector format? I have used Pixel3D on the amiga for years, and would like a similar utility for the PC as well. - -- mel matsuoka Editor/Digital Media Specialist Hawaiian Image Video Productions PGP public-key available on all internet keyservers - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMWtgwHZ57SRYjejdAQHxCAP/TGdfJeqEdhNKuZjVYoveUusRFJrDivoe u/86iFdXrSzhcMxdJjDu8VKV6rbbmHDOYAW0s6Tt0saHG5zgSmOva3rLBGWAhmlx e8vhUlK8d4Wb7pjA+vZekyNqpT2IIvAf7pF3G0GRRwBnvhpd4F2t1pS9lq2EWulB i87ffCCfcKA= =qdXp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Article: 16480 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.ultranet.com!usenet From: Jason Andreas Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: VTU says new LW will be shown at NAB Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 03:38:37 -0400 Organization: illipse Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <316B657D.48E6@online.ultranet.com> References: <19960409.7983618.E1F2@bbs.newtek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: col245.acol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) Chuck Baker wrote: > > On Mon 8-Apr-1996 15:46 , John Foust wrote: > blah, blah, blah > >> To clarify for those who aren't aware of the history, John Foust, who has done >> a whole lot for NewTek over the years, some acknowledged and some not, did the >> programming for a PC "ToasterLink" type product, which was simply a PC hooked >> via serial connect to a "Video Toaster", really a complete Amiga system >> equipped with a Video Toaster and our patented "Hide-That-Commodore-Logo" >> stick-on label. Our product team did not follow through on bringing the >> product to release. We did release the SCSI-based Mac-To-(Whups, don't let >> 'em find out it's an Amiga!)Video Toaster version of ToasterLink. Slight correction; The original "Hide-That-Commodore-Logo" patent #5,426,469 was issued to the University Of Lowell, Interactive Media Group. The inventors were Richard Miner and John Rutledge for their Sun X11/Motif based VideoToaster. :) Article: 16481 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: bman2@ix.netcom.com(Brenden Mecleary ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Whoa! LW 5.0?! Date: 9 Apr 1996 23:06:22 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4keqhe$d6s@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: esc-ca3-12.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Apr 09 6:06:22 PM CDT 1996 I just got my issue of 3D Design (great mag, BTW. Not enough LW coverage though) and I was flipping through, when a few pages in, I saw a really cool robot graphic. Of course, it was LW. In fact, it was a Newtek ad! At the top, there was: "Lightwave 3D" and the subtitle "Five Point Zero". Does this mean there's a LW 5.0 in the near future? What's up? Brenden Mecleary bman2@ix.netcom.com Article: 16482 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!surfnet.nl!news.nic.utwente.nl!news From: h.hazenberg@student.utwente.nl (Hank) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: HOW TO USE SNRENDER WITH WIN95??????? Date: 10 Apr 1996 10:02:26 GMT Organization: Hank-Automation Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4kg0vi$4ad@dinkel.civ.utwente.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: cal048062.student.utwente.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Hi, Could someone tell me how to render with multiple processors using Screamernet on my local Windows95 network???? Thanxx, HANK ;) Article: 16483 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!uunet.ca!news.uunet.ca!apollo.isisnet.com!news From: aperusse@animax.com (Andre Perusse) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Modeler stops to work !!! Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:45:41 GMT Organization: Animax Multimedia, Inc. Lines: 39 Message-ID: <4kg70t$2vc@apollo.isisnet.com> References: <4k9i2p$4af@bagan.srce.hr> Reply-To: aperusse@animax.com NNTP-Posting-Host: hfx-p39.isisnet.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 dinko.cepak@zg.tel.hr (Dinko Cepak) wrote: > Hi there !!! > > Something strage just happend to me ......... > Today i have started my machine and Modeler won`t work any more > Everything seams O.K. yesterday but today when i started Modeler it > appears only for few moments and than pops out ( like there is no > dongle ) but Lightwave works good........Any suggestions or help > on this.............I have tried to reinstall software but that did > not help ..........Than i have moved all to second machine and same > there.......All that is hapening on P5-133 under NT 3.51.......(also > same thing with Modeler rev. 4.0b , 4.0c and 4.0d)............. >One more thing....who can i conntact if my dongle get screwd (but if >that is truth how can Lightwawe and screamernet still work ???) > Any help ????? > > Thanks I had this EXACT same problem this week. LightWave works but Modeler doesn't. It IS a Dongle problem (apparently only a certain part of the dongle is affected thus allowing LightWave to work but preventing Modeler from working), according to NewTek Tech Support and you have to send your dongle back to Newtek for repair. This is my second time around with faulty dongles. Because I live in Canada, I experience a down-time of about a week to 10 days. This is absolutely unacceptable and it is my opinion that NewTek had better review it's dongle policy before they start to lose paying customers. ------------------------------------------------------------------- /\ndre Perusse - aperusse@animax.com ANIMAX MULTIMEDIA, INC. - Computer Animation & Multimedia Authoring Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada. (902) 468-2629 Visit our Web Site at: http://www.animax.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Article: 16484 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!ur002968 From: imagine@h130.aone.net.au (Kevin Gleeson) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Who's going to NAB? Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 11:53:00 GMT Organization: Imagine It Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4kg7au$fhf@news.mel.aone.net.au> References: <31594530.68A1@ademco.com> <4jbsnj$bom@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3163F76D.7A17@got.net> <31656BD5.6BBD@vvm.com> <316B18B0.2699@odyssee.net> <316B2A37.6BB9@odyssee.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: d23-1.cpe.hobart.aone.net.au X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 In article <316B2A37.6BB9@odyssee.net>, light@odyssee.net wrote: >How do I get an invitation to attend Newtek party at NAB? >Email: light@odyssee.net > >Stephane Bastien How do I get Newtek to pay my airfare to NAB? :-) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kevin Gleeson Imagine It 3D animation and graphics Hobart Tasmania Australia The Librarian Rules! - OOOK! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Article: 16485 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.ACO.net!fuw.edu.pl!news.nask.org.pl!sunrise.pg.gda.pl!mug1.gumbeers.elka.pg.gda.pl!witas From: Witold Ci/zmowski Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: objects & textures Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:58:09 +0200 Organization: Politechnika Gdanska Lines: 22 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mug1.gumbeers.elka.pg.gda.pl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Welcome! Where are (of course in Internet) objects & textures for LightWave (4.0), for example public ftp address (prefered WWW !). Please help me ! I find documentation oand help for LW 4.0 - it is in ? Thanks... witaS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Witold Cizmowski ~ ~ Technical University of Gdansk ~ ~ ------------------------------------ ~ ~ e-mail: witas@gumbeers.elka.pg.gda.pl ~ ~ www : http://www.gumbeers.elka.pg.gda.pl/~witas ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Article: 16486 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!btnet!zetnet.co.uk!usenet From: tran3d@zetnet.co.uk (Simon Blackledge) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Help with output to VHS required... Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:43:21 +0100 Lines: 59 Message-ID: <4kgbkh$1hh@irk.zetnet.co.uk> References: <4k3kov$dtl$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <4ke79s$vdj@irk.zetnet.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: victoria.zetnet.co.uk In message <4ke79s$vdj@irk.zetnet.co.uk> terry.hill@zetnet.co.uk (Terry Hill) writes: > In message <4k3kov$dtl$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> > James Osborne <100706.3126@CompuServe.COM> writes: > > Hi! > > I have just completed the scene file for a pretty cool > > (BIG) animation (for my Demo Reel) but I now need some advice on > > how best to go about transferring this (and future anims) to VHS > > tape. I really need to keep the cost to a minimum (no surprise > > there). > > Anyhow I currently have a P120 with 32Mb, 1Gb IDE HD, and a > > Stealth GT 2mb Vram card. I guess I will need a big, fast (scsi > > AV?) HD and an output card of some kind. > > Has anybody got any ideas. The Fast F60 MJPEG card sounds okay > > but is this the only option? > There are a few options. > Firstly you could try to source a second hand card such as the par. > If you do have enough to but a new card then the new MIRO 20 is supposed > to be worth a look (i`m thinking of getting one myself). > There is always the option of asking someone else to do the recording for > you. Where are you based? - i`m sure there`s someone reading this in your > area who will do the job for a reasonable fee. I know of a company > in Devon, England that may help. AMT Multimedia +44 01271 326986. > Give them a ring and see what they say. Do you have access to any storage > media that you can send the anim on? If the anim is huge then you will > need to get a DAT drive or something similar, but check with the company > first. You`ll be amazed at what some companies will do to help out if > you explain yourself clearly. > I still think the second hand par is the best approach though. > Cheers, > -- > Tel > terry.hill@zetnet.co.uk > i agree the par is a good bet ,i think the pvr might be a bit costly although it is amazing quality wise. Take note however that the PAR does not currently work under windows nt.Driver and software This is a real pain as you have to render to system drive first:-{ OH and i heard the miro dc series don`t support nt either. -- tran3d@zetnet.co.uk Creators of Digital Visual Effects ----------------------------- -------------------T.R.A.N.S.M.I.S.S.I.O.N--3D/AV--------------------------- ----------------------------- Web site in the works Article: 16487 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!lince.lander.es!news From: Ackman Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: LW4.0 wont save to AVI? Date: 10 Apr 1996 13:19:03 GMT Organization: Lander Internet Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4kgcg7$iuo@lince.lander.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp042.lander.es emperor2@micronet.fr (William Hamon) escribe: > In article <4ka9mg$knn@newshub.cts.com>, root@spacelink.com says... > > > > > > I'm using LW4.0 on a Pentium machine with 32MB ram and 3 GB disk > >under Win95. I've created an animation sequence which I am trying to > >render out to an .AVI file. I've gone to the OPTIONS menu and "Add > >plug-ins" selection. There, I selected "hiip\hiipsave" and received a > >message that the plug-in's were successfully added. next, I go to the > >'RECORD" menu and select "Save Animation", supply a filename and then > >select "HIip-avi16(.avi)" from the animation type selections. Next, I > >render. LW goes through the motions and actually renders my > >animation. HOWEVER, nothing is ever saved to disk.. anywhere. > > > >Any suggestions on why this doesn't work? Should this work? If not, > >what is the best way to generate an .AVI file of one's LW4.0 > >animations? > > > >Thanks for any suggestions, > >-Jim > > > > Do you put the extension .avi at the end of your file name > (ex: anim01.AVI)? > If you don't, it doesn't save anything... > However, you can use HIip-avi32, it works perfectly! > > Bye! Ciao! Au revoir! Auf vieder sehen! > > [Emperor II... > Exactly to be able to save an Avi under win95, you need to extract the file avifil32.dll from the win95_08.cab and move it to windows/system directory and so replace the one installed by Lightwave ( who before took out the previous file ). Now you can save a AVI under win95, but as said above remember to put file.AVI extension too. This works sure............ Ackman Article: 16488 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.new-york.net!tzlink.j51.com!wuv From: viggy@j51.com (Mike & the Mrs.) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95,alt.2600,alt.26 Subject: Re: HOW TO DO A BATCH HTTP FILE DOWNLOAD hybridv=putz Date: 10 Apr 1996 01:54:43 GMT Organization: TZ-Link, a public-access online community in Nyack, NY. Lines: 52 Message-ID: <4kf4d3$5fv@tzlink.j51.com> References: <315df4e7.30083078@nntp.loop.com> <31601c49.6539557@news.compuserve.com> <316192B5.69BB@europeonline.com> <3161a179.438764@news.earthlink.net> <4k5bvp$d28@usenet7.interramp.com> <4k7mhu$h1s@hole.sdsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wuv.j51.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: news2.cais.com comp.graphics.animation:34105 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:16488 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:13547 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio:14471 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x:1416 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win95:7824 alt.26 }In article <4k5bvp$d28@usenet7.interramp.com>, boxholder@anon.pissy.fi wrote: } }>>>Win95 does not do real multitasking Win95 is pure SHIT ! }>>>You should use a real multitasking environment instead ! }>>>And if your on a PC the only thing for YOU is OS/2 !! } }>>>THE DARK SITE - Psycho's Hompepage... } }>>shut the FUCK up loser... Win95 Does better multitasking then os/2 by }>>far obviously you have either a shitty computer or you just suck... } }>>i can run 3d studio, 2 versions of netscape, 2 versions of agent, and }>>adobe premiere 4.2 all at the same time with no noticble slow down or }>>crashes... therefor you dont know how to fucking setup your computer }>>or your just a dumbass... } }>>HybridV } }>NO, I say again, NO WAY does WIN95 do "Multi-Tasking"! There is but }>one processor and it is working on one program at a time! } }>You may seem to be running a bunch of programs, but all you are doing }>is splitting the clock cycles. Granted the Pxxx chip does the execute }>shuffel rather fast so one would hardly notice the it is only working }>on one executaable program at a time. BUT, it is doing just that "one }>at a time". Unless you have a multi processor (eg a dual or quad }>pentium) you are not and never will do multi tasking. It just aint }>possible for one processor to think about two programs at once. } }blah blah blah.... Uhh, just walking in on this thread, I would like to butt in with a few comments: 1) The phrases "Win95, OS/2, and MULTITASKING" should NOT be used in the SAME sentence! 2) The phrase MULTITASKING does not mean having more than ONE processor, a MULTI-THREADING OS uses more than one processor! 3) MULTITASKING is a property of the OS, NOT the hardware! Windows 3.X is virtual multitasking, in that the processor is 'time shared' by all of the currently running programs. In this situation, whatever program has control of the processor, it CANNOT be interruped. In other words, the computer is running only ONE program at any given time. In a multitasking OS, the OS controls the processor, and can (and will) interrupt programs that are being processed. The computer is running ALL programs currently running at any given time. If you guys check out an OS called Linux, try the command 'man ps'! Viggy Article: 16489 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!in-news.erinet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!usenet From: sales@mt-inc.com (MicroTech) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: I screwed up, Help! Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:17:30 GMT Organization: MCSNet Internet Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: <973.6674T452T420@mt-inc.com> References: <316A5FF9.26AD@UTK.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: mtinc.pr.mcs.net X-Newsreader: THOR 2.22 (Amiga;TCP/IP) On 09-Apr-96 08:02:49, brad prosise (BPROSISE@UTK.EDU) posted: Re: deleting Win NT > before. AND I STILL GET THE DAMN SELECTION SCREEEN. I know this may be The OS selection screen is in a file called boot.ini in the root of your C: drive. You can edit it with a text editor and change the default boot preference to whatever you want, and change the 'countdown' as well. John Crookshank MicroTech -- ______________________________________________________________ / MicroTech Sales Staff | Raptor3 DEC Alpha Workstations \ | MicroTech Solutions, Inc. | Lightwave 3D, Toaster/Flyer | | Desktop Video Systems Dealer | JVC Professional Video Products | | NewTek Systems Group Dealer | PVR, Speed Razor, Amiga Dealer | |------------------------------|---------------------------------| | sales@mt-inc.com http://www.mt-inc.com/ | \______________________________________________________________/ Article: 16490 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: equinoxii@aol.com (Equinox II) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave? Date: 10 Apr 1996 10:18:37 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 17 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4kgfvt$lrr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4kckqb$jep@news.accessone.com> Reply-To: equinoxii@aol.com (Equinox II) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com > This is a FALSE DICHOTOMY. For me, it is NOT an option to switch to Max >(not that I'm about to), unless there's some NEW competitive upgrade >program at Autodesk. Is there? Talk is that there will be, just as there *should* be a upgrade from 3DS to LightWave. It's not like it is some unbelievable possibility. Just about every competing program in graphics does it. >I swear, if that is not true, given the name of the thread and this mis- >leading post, that Autodesk is hiring agent provocateurs. Misleading post? Agent provacatuers? You drink too much latte my friend.... --Brian Equinox Images, Inc. http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/ Article: 16491 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!news.mr.net!scream.ing.com!cyberoptics.com!usenet From: Nate Hayes Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: I screwed up, Help! Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:00:51 -0500 Organization: CyberOptics Corp. Lines: 52 Message-ID: <316BBF13.42F7@cyberoptics.com> References: <316A5FF9.26AD@UTK.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: vidhound.cyberoptics.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) brad prosise wrote: > > I have been running LW 4.0 on my P90 with 16 megs of ram dual booting > win95 and winnt. Recently I had a big job that required more hard drive > space than I had so I used drivespace3 on my drives knowing that I would > invalidate windowNT in doing so. Now, I know a lot of you guys think > that NT is really great, but, on my machine it was really unstable (just > not enough ram) and not fully functional with my periferals. I only used > it for the slight speed increase in rendering time. So since the rev c > of lightwave is out and rendering with win 95 is more consistant with NT > I decided to drop NT alltogether. Well, NT does not take kindly to being > deleted. I think I have finally gotten rid of most of the gremlins but > one still hangs around to haunt me. Its that stupid winNT/dos selection > screen from the NT boot up dialogue. Now I had the 2 operating systems > on separate hard drives so when I deleted NT from 1 drive it only left > 95 to operate from on the other hard drive. I have even tried reloading > Win95 whic was also a mistake because it some how found an interupt > problem between my scsi zip and my parralel port backup that worked fine > before. AND I STILL GET THE DAMN SELECTION SCREEEN. I know this may be > somewhat offtopic and I may get flame but I have found that the more > knowledgable in the group are somewhat forgiving of us > psuedo-professional hobbyists. Thanks for any help you can give me. > -- > STOLEN PITHY QUOTE: > Heaven is where the cooks are French, the lovers are Italian, > the police are English, the mechanics are all Germans, and the > whole thing is organized by the Swiss. > In hell, the cooks are all English, the lovers are Swiss, the police > are German, the mechanics are French, and the whole thing is run by > the Italians. > > Brad Prosise Visit my web site > the URL is - http://users.aol.com/bprosise/private/bike.htm hi brad, have no fear... i've gone thru the same trials and tribulations with WinNT (even though i *do* still like it better than Win95 ). there may be someone out there that knows a better solution than the one i'm about to give; if so, listen to them ! seriously, the "selection" menu you describe resides in the boot sector of your drive. the only way that i know of to get rid of it is to reformat the drive (ouch!), possibly even FDISK'ing it. i've had dual boot configurations like yours before but was never able to figure out how to "undo" it except by formatting the drive and starting all over from scratch. sincerely, Nate hayes Article: 16492 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!panix!usenet From: Angelito So Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: My LW 4 Rev C keeps crashing Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:55:50 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 43 Message-ID: <316BCBF6.4A6F@panix.com> References: <4kcqa8$grn@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kfak6$3rf@islandnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.84.208.29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) To: Christopher Stewart Check out my Unoffical Lightwave Bug List it has something similar in it with Newtek-AVI and Win95. it is at http://www.panix.com/~lito/pages/LWBugList.html Christopher Stewart wrote: > > In a message dated 9 Apr 1996 00:50:16 mhardi2720@aol.com writes: > > M> My Lightwave 4.0 rev. C on Win95 keeps getting some memory page fault and > M> kicks me out. This only happens under certain (and repetitive) > M> conditions. I have a scene that I created that it refuses to render. I > M> know its not the best looking animation, but does my PC have to crash > M> it!!?! > M> The same has happened under the Modeler when I used certain Truetype > M> fonts. What the hell is going on? Is it Lightwave or Win95 that is the > M> problem? > > I'm in the same boat as far as Layout crashes. What elements are in > your scene? I'm trying to narrow it down. Mine crashes while initializing > the second frame (I DO get # 1 and I can single-render every other frame, I > just can't press the "automatic" button). This only happens in one of my > scenes with: > > - Glow effect behind multiple layers of transparency with moving fractal > noise. > - 16 objects with 8571 polys > - 16 meg ram, Intel 4.0C, Win95 > - Lots of textured surfaces. > > Horribly annoying as I have to be present to initialize each and every > frame..... > > Christopher > > ps. Can anybody pop NewTek's bug report email address to me? Page seems down. -- ***************************************************************************** E-Mail: lito@panix.com http://www.panix.com/~lito "Thats a feature, not a bug!" ***************************************************************************** Article: 16493 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!rci From: rci@crl.com (Michael Powell) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Modeler stops to work !!! Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:50:28 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 58 Message-ID: <4kghrk$e79@nntp.crl.com> References: <4k9i2p$4af@bagan.srce.hr> <4kg70t$2vc@apollo.isisnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl13.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Andre Perusse (aperusse@animax.com) wrote: : dinko.cepak@zg.tel.hr (Dinko Cepak) wrote: : > Hi there !!! : > : > Something strage just happend to me ......... : > Today i have started my machine and Modeler won`t work any more : > Everything seams O.K. yesterday but today when i started Modeler it : > appears only for few moments and than pops out ( like there is no : > dongle ) but Lightwave works good........Any suggestions or help : > on this.............I have tried to reinstall software but that did : > not help ..........Than i have moved all to second machine and same : > there.......All that is hapening on P5-133 under NT 3.51.......(also : > same thing with Modeler rev. 4.0b , 4.0c and 4.0d)............. : >One more thing....who can i conntact if my dongle get screwd (but if : >that is truth how can Lightwawe and screamernet still work ???) : > Any help ????? : > : > Thanks : I had this EXACT same problem this week. LightWave works but Modeler : doesn't. It IS a Dongle problem (apparently only a certain part of the : dongle is affected thus allowing LightWave to work but preventing : Modeler from working), according to NewTek Tech Support and you have : to send your dongle back to Newtek for repair. : This is my second time around with faulty dongles. Because I live in : Canada, I experience a down-time of about a week to 10 days. This is : absolutely unacceptable and it is my opinion that NewTek had better : review it's dongle policy before they start to lose paying customers. I agree.... This same thing happened to me.... and as I was in the middle of a project, I was desperate enough to ask for a crack that I could apply to my Lightwave that would allow me to continue to use my system until the probelm was fixed (which I received a *major* truckload of shit for by people in this group... proving that people who pirate software have it easy, while honest folks like you and I have to put up with dongles and dongle failure and also can end up getting dumped on for trying to locate a crack that makes software, which we are paid licensed users for, usable again... and believe it or not, it was even suggested that I should purchase _2_ versions of Lightwave so that I have a backup.... although there was no mention of what I should do if the second dongle died as well... I suppose by 3 Lightwaves. But this is of course another story). I have heard that you can send your dongle to a company that can produce a duplicate for ~$150.00... giving you a fairly cheap spare. I don't know any details... merely a rumor that perhaps someone else might know more about. Good luck to you. -mp- Article: 16494 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: stormer@bbs.newtek.com (Dave Klapproth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: MacroForm Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 09:56:50 Organization: NewTek Tech Support BBS Lines: 3 Distribution: world Message-ID: <19960410.78F61F8.9588@bbs.newtek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.newtek.com I for one am very happy with Macroform and your customer support, and am looking forward to the DEC ALPHA release of it! Keep up the good work, guys!! --Stormer Article: 16495 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!iol!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!tom02.sime.com From: Andreas Maurer Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re^2: LW faster than 3DS ? Date: 09 Apr 96 23:36:00 Organization: Deep Thought Lines: 25 Message-ID: <3cb_9604101715@tom02.sime.com> References: <4k8uvs$6d9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tom02.sime.com X-FTN-To: InstntGuts X-Mail2News-Path: tom02.sime.com Hi, InstntGuts. i> I've never heard of a 3D Studio rendering taking that long to render i> *anything*, and I know of people who've rendered scenes with 255 materials i> and over 1 million faces (the Bob Dylan CD-ROM, for example.) The people i> who produced that CD-ROM started out using Electric Image on the Mac, then i> abandoned it in favor of 3D Studio because Electric Image simply couldn't i> handle it. IMHO, 3ds/r4 has the advantage, of full access to the Computer, whereas, all NT Software has to deal with the hardware abstraction, and the security-layer. Let alone, systemtasks and such. Dont get me wrong, I do prefer a multitaskingenvironment, but I buy the comfort with speed. You are right, one cannot easily compare these Programs, but I have to say, that, for projects not involving refraction, visible lightsources and glow, I prefer 3ds, because it is, if used in plain DOS, very much faster than Lightwave. mfG 2:316/76.11 2:316/42.111 /XX\ Andreas Andreas@tom02.sime.com Article: 16496 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: nanook@sound.net (Nanook of the South) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Newtek FTP-Site trouble Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:30:00 GMT Organization: I'm totaly disorganized! Lines: 30 Message-ID: <316bd39f.669077221@news.sound.net> References: <4kbh8b$3qi@rubens.telebyte.nl> Reply-To: nanook@sound.net NNTP-Posting-Host: psycho.sound.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Dennis van Orsouw wrote: >I'm trying to get contact to Newtek's FTP-site for a few weeks now, but i >can't get a connection... > > >HELP! > >PS. One day i was lucky and got in (5 minutes) Their Amiga is a little 2000 that's sitting in our office. It doesn't quite know how to handle 2 T-1's worth of bandwidth to the backbone.... We wind up resetting it every other day or so when we notcie it's down. As a backup, you can always hit ftp.sound.net as I have a mirror process that gets the latest and greatest from their server (when up) each night. L8r G8r Keith +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | No! That light at the end of the tunnel is NOT a train! | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sound.Net is the premier Internet provider in the KC area. | | Our fees are only $10/month and include full slip/ppp access | | for 540 hours/month. For more information call our office | | at 816-436-5206 or send mail to support@sound.net | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ Article: 16497 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!guitar.sound.net!news From: nanook@sound.net (Nanook of the South) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: My LW 4 Rev C keeps crashing Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:32:01 GMT Organization: I'm totaly disorganized! Lines: 25 Message-ID: <316bd443.669241610@news.sound.net> References: <4kcqa8$grn@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: nanook@sound.net NNTP-Posting-Host: psycho.sound.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 mhardi2720@aol.com (MHardi2720) wrote: >My Lightwave 4.0 rev. C on Win95 keeps getting some memory page fault and >kicks me out. This only happens under certain (and repetitive) >conditions. I have a scene that I created that it refuses to render. I >know its not the best looking animation, but does my PC have to crash >it!!?! > The same has happened under the Modeler when I used certain Truetype >fonts. What the hell is going on? Is it Lightwave or Win95 that is the >problem? Increase the rendering memory segment size. Up it to 4M or 8M if you have a decent size machine (ie 16M+) L8r G8r Keith +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | No! That light at the end of the tunnel is NOT a train! | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sound.Net is the premier Internet provider in the KC area. | | Our fees are only $10/month and include full slip/ppp access | | for 540 hours/month. For more information call our office | | at 816-436-5206 or send mail to support@sound.net | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ Article: 16498 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!hobyah.cc.uq.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!janus.cqu.edu.au!usenet From: John Back Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re: Auto-tracing bitmaps into vector format? Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:19:28 GMT Organization: Central Queensland University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4kgg1g$1mf@janus.cqu.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 138.77.45.52 melorama@pixi.com (Mel Matsuoka) writes: > Are there any programs for Windows that can autotrace bitmapped > logos and convert them into a vector format? I have used Pixel3D on > the amiga for years, and would like a similar utility for the PC as > well. > mel matsuoka Well, for years I used CorelTrace - part of CorelDraw v.3 and although I haven't used it since I imagine it still comes with the newer Corel product versions... in some form or other! BTW: Vector tracing from bitmaps requires a lot of practice! -backj@topaz.cqu.edu.au Article: 16499 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!tom02.sime.com From: Andreas Maurer Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re^2: Is it true? Date: 10 Apr 96 00:26:00 Organization: Deep Thought Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3cc_9604101715@tom02.sime.com> References: <4kc9tf$lo6@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tom02.sime.com X-FTN-To: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com X-Mail2News-Path: tom02.sime.com Hi, leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com. l> Imagine, I believed had a mirror option. regardless though if you want a l> seamless texture then I believe you need a seamless image map. I know l> other programs also require seamless images. If you load an image map l> apply it in a surface without autosizing it you will get a repetitive l> series of images layed out in a tile format. If the image is not made to l> be seamless then I think you will notice it regardless of the program. l> developing seamless maps for 3D has always been a problem. I know this problem form another viewpoint, I am working in game development, and to preserve memory, objects have to be seamless. I sometimes miss Deluxpaint, when doing it, but I found Photoshop to be pretty usefull. mfG 2:316/76.11 2:316/42.111 /XX\ Andreas Andreas@tom02.sime.com Article: 16500 Path: news2.cais.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!tom02.sime.com From: Andreas Maurer Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave Subject: Re^2: Best of LightWave Pro Date: 10 Apr 96 00:34:00 Organization: Deep Thought Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3cd_9604101715@tom02.sime.com> References: <960302014214454@FrontierTech.COM> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tom02.sime.com X-FTN-To: Tony Lisanti X-Mail2News-Path: tom02.sime.com Hi, Tony. t> I was told that it would ship in april. I think they should really do t> something for all of us who have been awaiting this package all this time.. t> At least a bonus book or CD or a discount coupon or something.. Could you tell me the publisher and your source, to get the thing myselve? mfG 2:316/76.11 2:316/42.111 /XX\ Andreas Andreas@tom02.sime.com